York 54 Tabb 46 final

[DrPete]

York avenges the BRD tournament championship loss to Tabb with a strong win tonight.

[Falconcountry]

How 'bout those Lady Falcons! A decisive win!

We are so proud of you:clap2:

[girlwithgoals]

Tabb is the real winner of this game. They showed extreme sportsmanship at the end of the game and the York girls would not shake their hands. If you dont have sportsmanship you have no team. BRD Tournament Champions title and trophy belong to Tabb Girls and the record is 2 to 2 wins for each team against each other.
Go Tabb:)

[Falconcountry]

Funny you should mention sportsmanship. Tia Perry would not shake the hand offered by Shannon Lewis. Matter of fact, she didn't shake anyone's hand, but fled the floor instead. And York girls did, in fact, line up and shake hands with the other Tabb players.
Wonder if CNU head coach Carolyn Hunter witnessed the rudeness of her recruit?

[girlwithgoals]

I dont know what gym you were in but only 4 of your girls lined up to shake the hands of our entire team. 4 of 14 is pretty bad percentage. It's great to win, just do it with class.

[Falconcountry]

Huh, can you count?

And yes, some of the Falcons were celebrating, just like last week when Tabb was celebrating. Live in a glass house, don't throw stones.

[girlwithgoals]

No stone throwing, just facts. For the record, Tabb celebrated after they shook hands.

[Falconcountry]

Now you're making me wonder what game you were at.

[girlwithgoals]

facts are facts. Ask your girls.

[Marty O'Brien]

Excuse me for interrupting "Shake-gate", but just looking at the boxscore it's easy to see the difference between Saturday and Thursday. Weddington's 20 points vs. something like 9 on Saturday is huge. Tabb held Weddington and Lewis below their averages last time. ...this time Weddington got her points.

[treytinatia]

I have to interject as I was at the game and indeed Tia Perry was the first person in the Tabb line to congratulate York.

[Marty O'Brien]

Wasn't there, and even if I was I wouldn't get involved in something as silly as a handshake argument.

I will just say that Tia is as nice a girl as I've featured this season and I wish her the best. ...and hope, as I said in my blog today, that she gets picked for the VHSCA All-Star game at the Coliseum this summer.

I would also say that my dealings with the York girls have been pleasant and I look forward to watching them try to bring home a regional title tonight up in Fredericksburg.

Last, I would say this argument over a handshake or lack thereof is unseemly, and trying to pin down the facts on such a thing - as if it really matters in the long run - is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

This thread is beginning to remind me of the post after Bruton beat Handley in the state football semifinals. A Winchester-area fan claimed that he heard, second-hand no less, about swearing from football coaches (imagine that) on the sidelines corrupting an innocent young ball-boy and a teary-eyed cheerleader. After drying my own tears and lamenting my lost Norman Rockwell-like innocence, I went an entire week without watching soap operas.

Let's get back to basketball.

[girlwithgoals]

Sportsmanship is part of the game. Call it silly if you want.:)

[Marty O'Brien]

Sportsmanship is not silly, it's a must. But, setting aside that the facts are in dispute among those arguing, I have yet to see a sportsmanship complaint of this kind initiated by a fan of the winning team. ...similar to the Handley supporter after the Bruton game.

The real purpose of such posts is not to underscore sportsmanship, but to rain on the parade of the winners. That's what's so regrettable about them. Even if the complaint is true, it only drags Tabb down with it.

To paraphrase dad off of the Brady Bunch, "When you tattle, your not just telling on the other person, you're telling on yourself. You're telling them that you're a tattle tail."

[Fan4All]

Okay Marty...since you weren't at either game:

I happened to be at BOTH of the THS-YHS final two games. Here's EXACTLY what I saw:

BRD Championship Game: THS girls were excited, yet composed enough to extend sportsmanship when required...on the court and IMMEDIATELY following their win...the THS girls shook hands BEFORE celebrating this BRD CHAMPIONSHIP WIN. Period.

Region I Semifinal Game: YHS took to celebrating their win IMMEDIATELY at the buzzer. All YHS girls went to center court and continued the celebration as THS waited to shake hands. And waited. YHS coaches took no action and continued their own celebration at courtside. While THS girls waited. This is as much, if not more, a fault of the YHS coaches as it is the YHS players. Some of the THS girls simply gave up waiting for YHS to get it together.

Like it or not the YHS girls did what they did...out of spite (unlikely) or out of not being able to control their emotions for the 30 seconds it takes to shake their opponent's hands. Again, I look to the coaches more than I do the teenage players in this regard.

Marty, you and others may choose to give the YHS coaches and girls a pass on this if you want. I've drawn my conclusions and made my choice based on personal observations at the game. I will not excuse poor behavior...on or off the court. It's a matter of personal responsibility, and it comes with the wearing of your team's jersey.

Get back to basketball? Since when do we separate sportsmanship from sport? This IS PART of basketball...and any other sport for that matter.

As a 12-year fan of the BRD now, I absolutely wish all BRD teams to do well at the next level...I treasure ALL state championships coming to the BRD...swimming, field-hockey, soccer, football, wrestling, and basketball.

Does anyone here remember the Jamestown-York game with the 100-8 result? I still do. YHS apparently may not. There's plenty life's lessons here. And as the adult in this equation, the YHS coach is remiss in his responsibilities if he doesn't see it and teach it.

I hope and pray that everyone does well, doesn't get hurt, and develops the maturity to be able to extend some personal courtesy to the other team in all situations whether it's 8-100 or 54-46.

Peace!:peace:

[Marty O'Brien]

Fan4all,

I was at the Bay Rivers District tournament championship game. .....wrote a lengthy story on it and followed with an extra story on Perry the Monday after the district tournament final. (was orginally scheduled to be at the regional semifinal game with Tabb-York, but, because another writer did not possess the technology to send from New Kent, I ended up at NK)

As for the aftermath of the regional tournament semifinal, not being there I have not attempted to counter anyone's observations of what happened, although I have questioned the motives.

As for the handshake being delayed and failing to include all of the players. ...whatever the reason or possible motives for the alleged lapses, it seems the sportsmanlike thing would be to let it go.

Perhaps peoples motives in pointing out the alleged lapses are pure, and they only want to see sportsmanship gestures remain uncorrupted in the future. Perhaps this isn't being highlighted by supporters of the team that lost only to take a dig at the team that won.

I will say simply that I hope that's the case, and I mean that sincerely. But, as I said in an earlier post, my experience in many years covering sports is that this kind of complaint is virtually never made by supporters the winning team.

I have an example from that very night. Many of the James Monroe players walked off of the floor at the urgring of their coach, without shaking hands, while the New Kent players and fans celebrated their victory.

I did not ascribe a negative emotion to the coach. The ending was so emotional and so many New Kent fans were on the floor celebrating, my first thought was that the coach was wisely getting his players away from an emotional situation. (again, I have no way of knowing if that's his motive)

Lo and behold, a couple of fans scuffled briefly just moments after JM left the floor.

My point is that I have not heard a single complaint from New Kent folks, who probably did not even noticed that the team handshakes, other than between a few individuals, did not take place

[BadNewzObserver]

...
Lo and behold, a couple of fans scuffled briefly just moments after JM left the floor.

My point is that I have not heard a single complaint from New Kent folks, who probably did not even noticed that the team handshakes, other than between a few individuals, did not take place

So twice in the last 2 weeks fans have become rowdy at New Kent following a game (vs. York in districts)?

Not a good trend. :mad:

[Fan4All]

Fan4all,

I was at the Bay Rivers District tournament championship game. .....wrote a lengthy story on it and followed with an extra story on Perry the Monday after the district tournament final. (was orginally scheduled to be at the regional semifinal game with Tabb-York, but, because another writer did not possess the technology to send from New Kent, I ended up at NK)

As for the aftermath of the regional tournament semifinal, not being there I have not attempted to counter anyone's observations of what happened, although I have questioned the motives.

As for the handshake being delayed and failing to include all of the players. ...whatever the reason or possible motives for the alleged lapses, it seems the sportsmanlike thing would be to let it go.

Perhaps peoples motives in pointing out the alleged lapses are pure, and they only want to see sportsmanship gestures remain uncorrupted in the future. Perhaps this isn't being highlighted by supporters of the team that lost only to take a dig at the team that won.

I will say simply that I hope that's the case, and I mean that sincerely. But, as I said in an earlier post, my experience in many years covering sports is that this kind of complaint is virtually never made by supporters the winning team.

I have an example from that very night. Many of the James Monroe players walked off of the floor at the urgring of their coach, without shaking hands, while the New Kent players and fans celebrated their victory.

I did not ascribe a negative emotion to the coach. The ending was so emotional and so many New Kent fans were on the floor celebrating, my first thought was that the coach was wisely getting his players away from an emotional situation. (again, I have no way of knowing if that's his motive)

Lo and behold, a couple of fans scuffled briefly just moments after JM left the floor.

My point is that I have not heard a single complaint from New Kent folks, who probably did not even noticed that the team handshakes, other than between a few individuals, did not take place

Don't shoot the messenger Marty...and you can question my motives all you want. My conscience is clear.

The more you defend this type of behavior the more you become part of the problem. Unless your conscience too is clear...

[Marty O'Brien]

Originally posted by Fan4All: . ..."Marty...and you can question my motives all you want."

I will. And the other poster, too. I've taken enough laps around this track to know what this is about. Having covered Tabb for many years, I have to believe the majority of the fans are being more gracious in defeat. ...also a huge part of sportsmanship.

[TROJANFAN]

So twice in the last 2 weeks fans have become rowdy at New Kent following a game (vs. York in districts)?

Not a good trend. :mad:

Only trend is other fans came into our gym and either run there mouths or cant keep there hands in there pockets. The JM fans were disappointed, lost the game on a really close call, felt they were robbed and few made there feelings known, few NK'ers didnt appreciate it. No big deal, same thing would have happened in any gym in the BRD under the same set of circumstances and probably has. I dont need to re hash the other ( York) thats be done.

Don't want rowdy fans after a game then A. Keep your mouths shut unless its to congratulate someone, say good game, see ya next time something like that, you mouth off and provoke people then oh well, deal with it. B. Keep your hands off them and there stuff. Its pretty much that simple. You put your hands on someone or something that isnt yours I dont want to hear you whining when they get in your grill. And yeah, that goes for NK fans as well.

[Fan4All]

I will. And the other poster, too. I've taken enough laps around this track to know what this is about. Having covered Tabb for many years, I have to believe the majority of the fans are being more gracious in defeat. ...also a huge part of sportsmanship.

On behalf of all of my Canadian brethren, I apologize for my team making the Americans wait to shake hands while the Canadian team celebrated. This was most ungracious behavior by my Canadian team.

I am sorry Marty for my team's poor behavior.

[Fan4All]

I will. And the other poster, too. I've taken enough laps around this track to know what this is about. Having covered Tabb for many years, I have to believe the majority of the fans are being more gracious in defeat. ...also a huge part of sportsmanship.

Lumping the motives of anyone critiquing bad behavior doesn't change the facts...and I've forgiven the YHS players and coaches for their bad behavior.

[Marty O'Brien]

The hockey players weren't celebrating, they were putting in their dentures for the medal ceremony.

There's no need to apologize for Canada. Any country that gave the world Terrence and Phillip is alright by me.