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BRDSportsDad
10-14-2011, 01:50 AM
What players do you think are worthy of All-District nominations now that we're a little over half way through the regular season? To stir up some more conversations on this relatively dead board this season, I figured I may take a crack at it. Here we go...

QB- Alex Johnston (York)
RB- Storm Parker (New Kent)
RB- Jake Norman (York)
RB- Will Capers (Lafayette)
WR- Thomas Smith (Lafayette)
WR- Rodney Smith (Jamestown)
TE- Dylan Stallings (Grafton)
OL- Peter Park (Grafton)
OL- Hayden Crockett (York)
OL- Teddy West (Warhill)
OL- Nate Rhea (Poquoson)
OL- Dustin Edwards (Poquoson)

DL- Dylan Stallings (Grafton)
DL- Cody Hendrickson (York)
DL- Brannon Waters (Lafayette)
DL- Nick Cawthon (Bruton)
LB- Rodney Taylor (Lafayette)
LB- De'Arius Olvis (Bruton)
LB- Dylan Hill (Poquoson)
LB- Joe Nelson (Tabb)/Robbie Hiser (Grafton)
DB- Devonte Dedmon (Warhill)
DB- Anthony Honey (York)
DB- Thomas Smith (Lafayette)
DB- Marcus Spearman (Grafton)

OPOY: I believe Thomas Smith is the best all around and most exciting player in the district, but since York's entire offense starts with Alex Johnston, he is undoubtedly the Offensive Player of the Year. He is an excellent passer, possesses the ability to run and escape pressure, and is a very smart QB. He is the single most important player to his team, except maybe other than Storm Parker of New Kent.

DPOY: No question here, Anthony Honey has been the most impressive defensive player to date. Not only can he defend the pass, when he intercepts passes there's a good chance he's returning it for the touchdown. Also is very good at coming up and stopping the run. In addition to all this he is a very good returner as well.

*Junio from Tabb is a very good runner and has the stats, but I believe since his team is struggling he will not get the First Team nod.

*Rodney Taylor has been an excellent two way standout thus far, and would be 2nd in the DPOY voting in my eyes so far.

*York and Lafayette don't have very many picks for being the top two teams, but they're obviously the best two complete teams so these picks shouldn't mean much to their players not mentioned.

TabbDad13
10-14-2011, 07:11 AM
Nice post. Not sure of your logic on Junio when you have Storm Parker picked. Junio has been very consistent and was a huge player in the Poquoson win.
RBs should be Junio, Parker and Norman. I might change that after tonights game vs. Lafayette. Bartells has done a good job at RB also.
Stallings has been relatively quiet lately, not sure what his stats are at TE, but not sure who else would be picked in that spot, either.
I would have Nelson and Hiser picked over Olvis. Did not see much out of Olvis, at LB, in the Bruton Tabb game, excpet for his int return for a TD against Tabbs 2nd team with a minute to go. Not sure why he was still in the game?
This is hard when you only get to see one or two games of most of the teams.

Marty O'Brien
10-14-2011, 09:43 AM
Not a lot to quibble with here. Good stuff.

No need to talk about who I'd move off, but if I named a team at this point York LB Jimmy Evans would be on the defense. Jamestown's Rodney Smith at DB, too. Junio has to be a first-team guy with those numbers, but running back is just going to be a bear to pick so there ain't a lot of wrong selections there.

The board is indeed quieter, but I think much has to do with Poquoson, Grafton and Tabb having quieter seasons. Those seem to have been the lightning rods in the past. A little movement by the Islanders and Clippers down the stretch and things get going a little.

BRDSportsDad
10-14-2011, 10:14 AM
Nice post. Not sure of your logic on Junio when you have Storm Parker picked. Junio has been very consistent and was a huge player in the Poquoson win.
RBs should be Junio, Parker and Norman. I might change that after tonights game vs. Lafayette. Bartells has done a good job at RB also.
Stallings has been relatively quiet lately, not sure what his stats are at TE, but not sure who else would be picked in that spot, either.
I would have Nelson and Hiser picked over Olvis. Did not see much out of Olvis, at LB, in the Bruton Tabb game, excpet for his int return for a TD against Tabbs 2nd team with a minute to go. Not sure why he was still in the game?
This is hard when you only get to see one or two games of most of the teams.

You are correct with everything you have said, but there are many talented running backs in the district this year so it's going to be very difficult determining the 1st team running backs. I gave Storm Parker the nod over Junio because he made 1st team last year. I know this doesn't necessarily mean he will make it based off his reputation from last season, I'm just saying that last year Parker was unknown and had a terrific season. This year he is no longer going to be surprising teams, so teams are stacking the line to stop him, and ultimately he is still putting up excellent numbers. Stallings and Olvis have been fairly quiet this season, but with their reputation from previous years they will be nominated for 1st team regardless of their performance. Political, but true.

cheap seats
10-14-2011, 12:02 PM
Marty, do you track stats from teams such as tackles and sacks? If so can you post that? That may be something to look at when commenting on all district selections on defense. Would like to see it by position as well like D line, Linebackers and such.

Marty O'Brien
10-14-2011, 12:46 PM
Impossible to get tackle stats for all the teams, or, this time of year, the majority. And with many teams, you're only going to be able to get numbers for the top guys and only then at all-district time.

York, Tabb and Poquoson all keep tackle stats on a weekly basis. ...and I know Wakelyn is at 84 and Evans 76 at this point for York.

Some of the other teams keep tackles, too, be it on paper or looking at the film, but don't always total them on a weekly basis. That stuff is a lot easier to get come all-district time, because everyone gets that together for nominations of the guys they think can make the All-Bay Rivers team.

But a full position by position list in the BRD ain't never gonna happen.

Just getting the offensive stats is a huge, time-consuming task. Some of it done because we have a staff guy or stringer at most games, and much of it done with multiple phone calls during the week.

BRDfootball101
10-15-2011, 11:15 AM
QB-Alex Johnston (York)
RB-Storm Parker (New Kent)
RB-Jake Norman (York)
RB-Andrew Junio (Tabb)
WR-Thomas Smith (Lafayette)
WR- Rodney Smith (Jamestown) or Anthony Honey (York)
TE- Dylan Stallings (Grafton)
OT- Nate Rhea (Poquoson)
OT- Peter Park (Grafton)
OG- Dustin Edwards (Poquoson)
OG- Hayden Crockett (York
OC- Tony Allsbrook (Poquoson)

DL- Dylan Stallings (Grafton)
DL- Dustin Edwards (Poquoson)
DL- Cody Hendrickson (York)
DL- Brannon Waters (Lafayette)
LB- Jimmy Evans (York)
LB- Joe Nelson (Tabb)
LB- De'Arius Olvis (Bruton)
LB- Dylan Hill (Poquoson)
DB- Thomas Smith (Lafayette)
DB- Devonte Dedmon (Warhill)
DB- Anthony Honey (York)
DB- Marcus Spearman (Grafton)
K-I don't know what kicker is leading stats so whoever that is.

OPOY- Alex Johnston
DPOY-Devonte Dedmon, Thomas Smith, or Anthony Honey

Marty O'Brien
10-15-2011, 11:45 AM
The absence of a Lafayette lineman on the all-district posts I'm seeing is glaring. I'll confirm this later today, but I believe the Rams are leading the district in rushing. If not they're close. Capers et all are good, but they're not Emmett Smith or Barry Saunders.

I'm not picking a midseason team, but if I were a Kepa and/or Hurst would be on it. It's no accident the Rams are busting out the points and rushing yards. It all starts with the line.

BRDfootball101
10-15-2011, 04:07 PM
The absence of a Lafayette lineman on the all-district posts I'm seeing is glaring. I'll confirm this later today, but I believe the Rams are leading the district in rushing. If not they're close. Capers et all are good, but they're not Emmett Smith or Barry Saunders.

I'm not picking a midseason team, but if I were a Kepa and/or Hurst would be on it. It's no accident the Rams are busting out the points and rushing yards. It all starts with the line.
I still believe Poquoson's o-line should dominate that list. If it weren't for fumbling Poquoson would have a lot more rushing yards.

tripsdad58
10-17-2011, 02:59 PM
Nice list indeed. Couple of names worthy of consideration. Disclaimer, I don't have stats, just observation.

RB - William emeny (Poquoson). Believe he is tied or maybe has a few more TD's/yards than Storm right now. Certainly a workhorse for Poquoson and over 13 TD's. Also plays LB and I believe has the most tackles on the team.

OG - Jordan Kelley (Poquoson). Not mentioned with well known players like Edwards and Rhea. Played all last year weak side pulling guard including the State Championship game. Has played both strong side tackle and weak side pulling guard this year.

TrojanPride94
10-18-2011, 07:20 PM
On defense, LB Carnell Nixon from New Kent definitely needs to be considered, he is, as Marty put it, a "tackling machine", definitely at the top of the list in tackles.

TrojanPride94
10-18-2011, 07:26 PM
Nice list indeed. Couple of names worthy of consideration. Disclaimer, I don't have stats, just observation.

RB - William emeny (Poquoson). Believe he is tied or maybe has a few more TD's/yards than Storm right now. Certainly a workhorse for Poquoson and over 13 TD's. Also plays LB and I believe has the most tackles on the team.

OG - Jordan Kelley (Poquoson). Not mentioned with well known players like Edwards and Rhea. Played all last year weak side pulling guard including the State Championship game. Has played both strong side tackle and weak side pulling guard this year.
Not to take anything from Emeny away at all, but he is definitely benefiting from running behind the amazing line of Poquoson (along with Hill) that they posess this year. There's a reason all of Poq's RB's average more YPC than other runners-Poquoson's line is top notch. And again, taking nothing away, just pointing out. If that is taken into consideration. .

FOOTBALL FREAK
10-18-2011, 07:48 PM
2 Additions That Have Looked Good Are Kapri Doucet@ Db For Bruton And The Center For Warhill's Wildcat Offense # 53.....thanks And Great Job So Far!!

tripsdad58
10-19-2011, 07:57 AM
Absolutely agree TrojanPride94. RB's like Storm don't have that benefit. The New Kent line works hard to get what they can for him. All those guys in the trenches, from all teams, deserve respect. It's not easy going play after play without a break blocking. Bay Rivers definitely have some terrific O-lines and there are a lot of them that could be on this list, not just one or two.

Da minister
10-19-2011, 09:01 AM
Tim Chalmers number 78 for New Kent should bare some consideration also when he is a standout on Dline everygame although. although he doesn't make every tackle it's kinda hard when every game you are drawing a double team and teams run away from his side while opening on the hole so that Carnell Mixon can be a tackling machine. We really missed his play and what he brings to the team when he went down in the Jamestown game with a ankle injury. I believe if New Kent were winning games Storm Carnell and Tim would get more recognition, just my observation

TrojanPride94
10-19-2011, 10:38 AM
Absolutely agree TrojanPride94. RB's like Storm don't have that benefit. The New Kent line works hard to get what they can for him. All those guys in the trenches, from all teams, deserve respect. It's not easy going play after play without a break blocking. Bay Rivers definitely have some terrific O-lines and there are a lot of them that could be on this list, not just one or two.
Completely agree. The line, (offense and defense) is the hardest job in football. Constant knocking around with not much recognition being thrown around for the most part. A RB can't go anywhere without a line, which makes what guys like Barry Sanders for the Lions did so much more spectacular. My whole point is-put a RB like Parker behind an offensive line like Poquoson or Lafayette and I don't think this discussion would be too difficult.

BrDfOoTbAlL
10-19-2011, 12:01 PM
QB-Johnston RB-Parker, Junio, Capers WR-Smith TE-Stallings 0-Line-Kepa, Edwards, Rhea, Crockett

BRD25836
10-19-2011, 12:28 PM
First let me say that I agree that Poquoson has a great O-line, but yall are not giving Emeny enough credit. I haven't taken stats or broken down tape, but I have been to almost every game, and I would bet that he has as many or more yards after first touch (or second) than the other top tier RBs being mentioned. The guy is a workhorse and has a better YPC average than the other RBs and he is tied for the lead with 13 TDs!

Ex-Monarch01
10-19-2011, 12:45 PM
I do agree he's solid but how many fumbles does he have???

footballfan2
10-19-2011, 01:38 PM
I do agree he's solid but how many fumbles does he have???

Yes he's fumbled but he's not the only one on the TEAM that's fumbled and it is a TEAM sport.

Emeny is a solid back but let me just ask this, yes he has 13 TD's, how many of those are over 10 yards? 2? 3 maybe? How many are under 10 yards? I would say the majority of them are. His YPC is high but he doesn't even have the highest YPC on his own team...that belongs to Hill...even with the shoulder injury I think he's still over 9 yards per carry, with half as many carries. You could argue that if they had equal amounts of carries between them, he'd be leading the district in rushing (injury notwithstanding of course and keeping his same ypc). 5 of Hill's 6 rushing TDs are over 40 yards (the only one under being the one vs YHS). That's a breakaway, home run threat, Chris Johnson of the Titans in 2010 type back. Can go the distance anytime he touches the ball (when he does get it). If you wanted to just argue YPC for best RB it's Hill. Plain and simple. But regardless, he can't be considered best RB in the district. Neither one of them can. That's the situation they're in (and its a good situation to be in/watch if you're Poquoson). That honor has to go to Parker from NK. Every team in the district knows who he is and knows they're going to have to stack the box with 8 or 9 (sometimes 10) against him and he still gets his yards and TDs.

I think that we can all agree if the carries were not split between the two of them (Hill and Emeny) they'd each be almost at or above 1000 at this point, especially behind the offensive line that's at POQ.

Its the similar situation for all district POQ had last year with Hutchison, Garris, Diggs and the Hill Boys...they spilt the carries, they wont be considered for all district because theyre stats arent high enough (they're stats are skewed due to lack of carries for each back). The other teams have 1 feature back, POQ is lucky enough to have had a bunch.

Ex-Monarch01
10-19-2011, 02:17 PM
Yes he's fumbled but he's not the only one on the TEAM that's fumbled and it is a TEAM sport.

Emeny is a solid back but let me just ask this, yes he has 13 TD's, how many of those are over 10 yards? 2? 3 maybe? How many are under 10 yards? I would say the majority of them are. His YPC is high but he doesn't even have the highest YPC on his own team...that belongs to Hill...even with the shoulder injury I think he's still over 9 yards per carry, with half as many carries. You could argue that if they had equal amounts of carries between them, he'd be leading the district in rushing (injury notwithstanding of course and keeping his same ypc). 5 of Hill's 6 rushing TDs are over 40 yards (the only one under being the one vs YHS). That's a breakaway, home run threat, Chris Johnson of the Titans in 2010 type back. Can go the distance anytime he touches the ball (when he does get it). If you wanted to just argue YPC for best RB it's Hill. Plain and simple. But regardless, he can't be considered best RB in the district. Neither one of them can. That's the situation they're in (and its a good situation to be in/watch if you're Poquoson). That honor has to go to Parker from NK. Every team in the district knows who he is and knows they're going to have to stack the box with 8 or 9 (sometimes 10) against him and he still gets his yards and TDs.

I think that we can all agree if the carries were not split between the two of them (Hill and Emeny) they'd each be almost at or above 1000 at this point, especially behind the offensive line that's at POQ.

Its the similar situation for all district POQ had last year with Hutchison, Garris, Diggs and the Hill Boys...they spilt the carries, they wont be considered for all district because theyre stats arent high enough (they're stats are skewed due to lack of carries for each back). The other teams have 1 feature back, POQ is lucky enough to have had a bunch.

you say it's a team sport but this is an INDIVIDUAL award...i would agree emeny and hill could each rush for 1000 yards but both seem to have fumbling issues which is a serious problem...w/o fumbles i think poquoson would only have 1 lost which wouldve been to york. i also agree storm is the best rb in the brd...if he was on poq he might go for 2000 yds and 25-30 tds (he's that good)

BrDfOoTbAlL
10-19-2011, 05:41 PM
you say it's a team sport but this is an INDIVIDUAL award...i would agree emeny and hill could each rush for 1000 yards but both seem to have fumbling issues which is a serious problem...w/o fumbles i think poquoson would only have 1 lost which wouldve been to york. i also agree storm is the best rb in the brd...if he was on poq he might go for 2000 yds and 25-30 tds (he's that good)
Agreed.

P-Town Proud
10-20-2011, 10:46 AM
I notice that in high school the running backs and fullbacks are lumped together. William Emeny is a true fullback. Thomas Garris last year was a true fullback. These guys aren't going to run the fastest or the farthest but give them the ball and they can get you the few yards needed to get those first downs. Emeny has done a phenomenal job this year behind his equally phenomenal O line. This is a kid who plays for the name on the front of the jersey. He could care less how many TD's he personally makes as long as the TEAM is doing well. Gotta admire that in a kid. Come to think of it alot of the Bulls kids this year have the same mentality. I voted Emeny for those reasons but if the catgories were split I would have to say Storm Parker is the true star of the RB's in the BRD. He is every bit the workhorse William Emeny is he just goes further and faster doing it. :lol:

Have to say I do not know the names of al the other teams players but I have seen some great achievements out there this year. But being the Bulls fan that I am Rhea, Edwards, Kelley, Allsbrook are deserving of many props on those lines. They will have to work hard these final three weeks to keep us in the running. Don't think that will be an issue.

PTownBulls
10-21-2011, 07:35 AM
I do agree he's solid but how many fumbles does he have???


Two to be exact. I wouldnt call that an issue when he has 116 carries. that is only 1 every 58 times he touches the ball.

Ex-Monarch01
10-21-2011, 08:30 AM
Two to be exact. I wouldnt call that an issue when he has 116 carries. that is only 1 every 58 times he touches the ball.

So then Hill must have all of the fumbles???