Legion Tourney

[ThatBallPlayer]

Does anyone kno the schedule of the Tourney games for Legion baseball??

[Yankee Fan]

Final schedule won't be set till results of Poquoson, Post 25 game are known.

[wildflowers]

Due to tiebreakers...here is the seeding for the tournament:

1 Denbigh Vs 8 Warwick
4 Yorktown Vs 5 Poquoson

2 Hampton Vs 7 Williamsburg
3 Newport News Vs Smithfield

1st round games are at the higher seeds.

Gloucester, Colonial, and Phoebus failed to make the tournament.

[goldglove1]

any predictions on the tournament? heres mine...

denbigh , york, williamsburg, newport news will advance to the 2nd round

just an opionion, not bashing any team out there...any other opionions?

[ThatBallPlayer]

I still cant believe Hampton is a #2 seed.

How they pulled that off, i have no idea:canada:

[wildflowers]

They are a solid bunch of players and well coached. It should be a good game.

[ILuvBaseball09]

yeah the seedings are surprising
does anyone know the schedules for the games?

[goldglove1]

hampton is a great team, they just need to show up everyday, just like most teams out here they can easily have a terrible game

[wildflowers]

tournament is wide open. obviously Denbigh has the depth of starting pitching, No one wants to play NN 25 with their ACE on the mound, Poquoson is loaded with college and high school players that have playoff experience. Same for Yorktown. IT is wide open~!

[goldglove1]

denbigh beat warwick 7-0 , i heard 25 demolished smithfield...any other scores on york-pq, hampton -39

[wildflowers]

hampton beat 39 3-0. the game only took an hour and half. 9 total hits between the two teams.

[Ballplayer]

I heard POQ beat Yorktown

[Shirol]

:) Poquoson 3
York 1

[goldglove1]

wooow unbelievable, i would like to hear a score before i beleived it tho lol

[goldglove1]

haha nevermind sorry i didnt see your post

[goldglove1]

all legion games for tonight have been cancelled due to rain
everyone will play tomorrow night same games

[Sonny Dearth]

Thanks for the reply! This means ...

Newport News Post 25 vs. Hampton Post 31 (at Trimble Field), ppd. until 7 p.m. Monday
Poquoson Post 273 vs. Denbigh Post 368 (at Denbigh High), ppd. until 7 p.m. Monday

[ILuvBaseball09]

denbigh "should" win the tournament
but we will see
thats why you play the games ya know

[goldglove1]

the way its raining right now, other teams could be out of luck ...there could be no more tournament. the games must be finished by thursday or the number 1 seed goes to states

[ss2nd&pitchermom]

Finally I had to register on this site to comment- I have been reading this
site for months and now I will defend the comment from thatballplayer about
Post 31- They came in 2nd and at one point were in 1st place, and for someone
to say they don't know how then it's time for you to come to a game and watch!
All these teams are very competitive and any one can win, yes there are the
favorites and Post 31 is never mentioned but don't count them out, 9 innings
in under 2 hours says alot and during regular season have beaten the "so called
top teams". So anything can happen on any given day!! Lets just hope for good
weather so the tournment can finish in time.......

[AA2007]

rumor has it games are canceled tonight. Time is running short. Can anyone else confirm this?

[ss2nd&pitchermom]

Just got word that Post 31 & 25 will play at Menchville tonight at 7:00- don't
know about other teams.....sorry

[AA2007]

so much for home field advantage. Tough break for 31 having to play at Menchville's little league field.

[ss2nd&pitchermom]

To repeat from earlier--- Any given day...... If a team pulls together and
plays like a team it doesn't matter what field their on.... And I have upmost
respect for Post 25 (and friends on that team also) but Post 31 did beat them.And
here's hope for a good game! Either way.........:rolleyes:

[Ballplayer]

any results?

[Shirol]

Poquoson won playing York. I think the score was 8-2

[footballwatcher]

Poquoson beat Denbigh 9-2 and will play on Wednesday night at War Memorial:high5:

[THSbaseball]

does anyone know about the post 25 and post 31 game?
i heard that 25 was winning 7-6 in the 8th

[ss2nd&pitchermom]

Results of 31 & 25--- Final 12-6 Post 25 won and play Poquoson, but it was a
good game.

[WHATS-UP???]

The person who made the rule change at the last minute Tues. should be FIRED from his position. American Legion has made a bad decision to allow rules to be changed at the last minute. I'm sure it was to show favortism to a certain team.The coaches & AD's of the teams who lost should protest the changes. There is plenty of time to complete the Tournament and give all the teams a fair chance to compete. once again the adults have spoiled the kids chances for a fair game. American legion should have their officers repeat the same PLEDGE they require the players to before each game.:fencing:

[AA2007]

Well, R. Watkins has thrown the first 2 games of the legion tournament (at least partially). What are the chances he throws at least half of the championship game? I'm sure his pitching coach at ODU wouldn't be too thrilled seeing how much he is getting over used. How does his arm hold up? :confused:

Should be a good game between NN & Poq though. Best of luck to both teams.

[Ballplayer]

The person who made the rule change at the last minute Tues. should be FIRED from his position. American Legion has made a bad decision to allow rules to be changed at the last minute. I'm sure it was to show favortism to a certain team.The coaches & AD's of the teams who lost should protest the changes. There is plenty of time to complete the Tournament and give all the teams a fair chance to compete. once again the adults have spoiled the kids chances for a fair game. American legion should have their officers repeat the same PLEDGE they require the players to before each game.:fencing:


what was the rule change?

[Sonny Dearth]

Did they decide to make it single-elimination? If so, that would mean Poquoson and Newport News would play for the championship. Please respond. Thanks, Sonny

[Mets Fan]

yes the tourney is now single elimination and poquoson will play against newport news in the final at war memorial on wedneday night

[wildflowers]

Fair or not, the coaches and ADs knew this was a possibility before the tournament began. It is in the Legion guidelines. Single elimination may not be fair, but it is fairer than the 1 seed getting the automatic berth because of rain.

[WHATS-UP???]

Fair or not, the coaches and ADs knew this was a possibility before the tournament began. It is in the Legion guidelines. Single elimination may not be fair, but it is fairer than the 1 seed getting the automatic berth because of rain.

You must be from menchville..........
No coach or ad would agree that one rain day would justify the change.
The winner needs to be at STATES on Monday. 6 days from now. There is always a day or two to play with in tournaments.Clearly the change was made to from someone who needs to be replaced of his POWER . The advantage clearly goes to Menchville. Why would any coach give up home field advantage in a tournament?
Just another JOKE.

Poquoson got lucky, Menchville got the the only break that could give them the Tournament.
:ban: :rockon:

[Ballplayer]

how did POQ get lucky?

I thought the score was 9-2...sounds like the BRD players simply played better than the PD boys

[ThatBallPlayer]

What i didnt like was that they CANCELLED the games allready. Then, said to go back on around 4pm.
Thats a joke because what if players didnt answer their phones, an i kno some players were evn on way to the beach once word got out to them the ames were cancelled.

and ur wrong, id rather woulda saw the games canclled an #1 seed go to states, y wouldnt u. Its obvious that DHS had a bad game, but by far are a wayyy better team than all the rest, which if it was 2-elimination, tey coulda fought their way back like Newport News did last year.

But since it got cancelled, the Champ. game was going to be the top 2 seeds for a winner take all. and thats the way it shoulda stayed.

The Hampton coaches are dumb for falling into NN trap of letting them play at thier little league field, rather than Hamptons home field in the first place.

HELLO!?!? DUH! Id rather play 1 game, an win an go to states, rather than watch DHS have a bad night, an pretty much let NN take the trophy tommorw.

And that will happen cause Poq. has no other pitching left to throw thats good enuf to beat any team.

[THSbaseball]

dude you dont know wat ur talking about
poquoson might not have all of their pitchers available but we
def have some pitching left
and really poquoson should have beaten post 25 before
the first game was close and the second game they didnt have all of their players
and for a team that has almost lost half of its players they are doing good
i would like to see any other team go out there and play with 9-10 players a game and compete.
WE didnt beat denbigh because denbigh had a bad game, we beat denbigh because we outplayed them. they threw all of their aces and we hit all of them pretty hard.

[ThatBallPlayer]

All fairy Tales end sooner or later

and Poq. WILL end tom,

if not, then this whole year has been a joke cause they will get embarassed in states, worse than 25 did last year.

:rofl:

:violin:

[phantom5]

You are oh so right ss2nd but as always the district put it to Post 31 and Denbigh by making them play at Menchville and making the tourny single elimination when they could of played Tuesday, the district winner does not have to be at state until Monday, and the forecast all week called for no rain.

[observer 3]

dude you dont know wat ur talking about
poquoson might not have all of their pitchers available but we
def have some pitching left
and really poquoson should have beaten post 25 before
the first game was close and the second game they didnt have all of their players
and for a team that has almost lost half of its players they are doing good
i would like to see any other team go out there and play with 9-10 players a game and compete.
WE didnt beat denbigh because denbigh had a bad game, we beat denbigh because we outplayed them. they threw all of their aces and we hit all of them pretty hard.

Post 273 deserved to win this game. They flat outplayed 368. They hit the ball well and their pitcher, Baker, threw one heck of a game. 368 played like they didn't want it and they got what they deserved___ a loss. I think 273 has a very good chance against 25, if they play them like they did 368. This BRD vs Peninsula dist is for little league minded fans. Both districts have very good players and if you know its pretty easy to see.

[AA2007]

<<<Post 273 deserved to win this game. They flat outplayed 368. They hit the ball well and their pitcher, Baker, threw one heck of a game. 368 played like they didn't want it and they got what they deserved___ a loss. I think 273 has a very good chance against 25, if they play them like they did 368. This BRD vs Peninsula dist is for little league minded fans. Both districts have very good players and if you know its pretty easy to see.>>>>

Very true. Both teams have massive amounts of talent and it was just obvious that 273 wanted that game more than 368. 368 came out flat, and from the first pitch of the game on, they were beat.

And I could be wrong, but I dont think 25 has much pitching left either. Watkins has thrown in both district tournament games so obviously they don't have much confidence in whoever else they can put on the hill. If poquoson gets to them early they will be the champs, in my opinion. If they let them hang around, 25 will bring in watkins to close the door. Best of luck.

[oldguy]

I for one would like to see Poq win....they don't have 4 college kids playing on their team...

[WHATS-UP???]

Nothing would be sweeter than for Poquoson to beat the ***** out of Menchville. That would make the League look like ***** for rushing to Crown a team who won't beable to represent very well at STATES.:boink:
I'll be at the game to support the UNDERDOG.:D

[Mets Fan]

Post 273 deserved to win this game. They flat outplayed 368. They hit the ball well and their pitcher, Baker, threw one heck of a game. 368 played like they didn't want it and they got what they deserved___ a loss. I think 273 has a very good chance against 25, if they play them like they did 368. This BRD vs Peninsula dist is for little league minded fans. Both districts have very good players and if you know its pretty easy to see.


what makes you think that the BRD and PD are the only conferences represented by those teams?

[Nationals 11]

Nothing would be sweeter than for Poquoson to beat the ***** out of Menchville. That would make the League look like ***** for rushing to Crown a team who won't beable to represent very well at STATES.:boink:
I'll be at the game to support the UNDERDOG.:D
Not looking good right now. 7-0 after 3

[Nationals 11]

I for one would like to see Poq win....they don't have 4 college kids playing on their team...
Post 25 has a few other players also, my friend.

[ThatBallPlayer]

13-0 Post 25 win...

im sorry, were u guys sayi somethin about poq having a chance...

i mussta missed that convo, cause they got KILLED!

[oldguy]

Aside from Sizemore and Armstead and Brown....let's see,

Pitching from Watkins....and last night Penny....Huum...which high school do they play for.....that's right they don't.....so which pitchers that are getting it done
aren't college kids?


They should shut down younger players.....that is no great accomplishment

[mhsjvbaseballparent]

Just asking, but how many cities/areas can Poquoson Legion pull from? Is it not Tabb and Poquoson? Both areas had very strong varisty teams in the spring, did they not? Is Post 25 the only post that pulls college freshman to play on it's Legion team? Are there not any other teams that will play at state that will have college freshman on them? Sounds to me like the rules are put in place to allow these young adults to come back and play one more year and Post 25 did the right thing. Reminds me a lot of the BIB Tourney for 11/12 year olds where Billy A. can pull kids from York/Poquoson/Hampton/Gloucester for his Diamonds team....a no brainer for a pool of talent...

Good luck Post 25!!! Represent well in Stafford!:D :cheer2:

[oldguy]

Tell me....what did you think of MHS NOT having a Junior legion team this year?
The fact that there were two complete fall teams last year....YEt no Junior legion team....so how much talent development did MHS do for upcoming years?

Instead of working with the Legion program (Sr and Jr)...they decided to bring back 4 (out of 18 total) college kids to beat up on every other legion team (I know of not one with a college player)... that is great....and WLL did well in Junior and Sr LL....but if you were to go a see other high school programs especially across the river...you would be embarrased and angry at the MHS folks...even Yorktown's Junior legion team is playing in the State tourney...that's developing talent for the future....MHS doesn't give a whit about that apparently....unless you think one upcoming freshman on the Sr team (what a message that sends) somehow will lead MHS to the promised land....while all the upcoming Jr's and Sophs (and a couple of rising seniors from the varsity last year) get thrown under the bus. Now that Carter is going to play at MHS....the coaches will just keep on doing it the way they want...to promote a handful of kids at the expense of others....go see some other programs....truly year round....and that is why the PD gets its teeth kicked in during the regionals and states

WHy do you think they didn't have a junior legion team....well the word from the coaches is funding...B.S. one guy offered to pay for it all....and they decided this in February......you don't think parents would've paid money to have a team...when they had until June to get some money....There is more going on here than you want to know....and even though I know you have a close relationship with the MHS bball coaches...you have know idea of how they will throw your boy under the bus....know matter how many pizza's you sell...

Just ask Kenny williams and Mr. Liberta? They had him "removed" from his position in the Legion...why do you think his son moved to play at Denbigh's legion

Ask your buddy Howard about Junior legion...and then I'll tell you the truth

[WHATS-UP???]

Post 25--Can you say you are the CHAMPS with a straight face????????
You can't because you are two games shy of earning it.
You should be very thankful you were handed the Tournament by your friend who changed rules because of only one rain day. good job of taking the handout. Rest up over the next 5 days before the games get tough. Hold your heads up when the scores don't go your way. Just remember you are just alittle shy of being the true CHAMPS.
Good luck :D

[mhsjvbaseballparent]

Tell me....what did you think of MHS NOT having a Junior legion team this year?
The fact that there were two complete fall teams last year....YEt no Junior legion team....so how much talent development did MHS do for upcoming years?

Instead of working with the Legion program (Sr and Jr)...they decided to bring back 4 (out of 18 total) college kids to beat up on every other legion team (I know of not one with a college player)... that is great....and WLL did well in Junior and Sr LL....but if you were to go a see other high school programs especially across the river...you would be embarrased and angry at the MHS folks...even Yorktown's Junior legion team is playing in the State tourney...that's developing talent for the future....MHS doesn't give a whit about that apparently....unless you think one upcoming freshman on the Sr team (what a message that sends) somehow will lead MHS to the promised land....while all the upcoming Jr's and Sophs (and a couple of rising seniors from the varsity last year) get thrown under the bus. Now that Carter is going to play at MHS....the coaches will just keep on doing it the way they want...to promote a handful of kids at the expense of others....go see some other programs....truly year round....and that is why the PD gets its teeth kicked in during the regionals and states

WHy do you think they didn't have a junior legion team....well the word from the coaches is funding...B.S. one guy offered to pay for it all....and they decided this in February......you don't think parents would've paid money to have a team...when they had until June to get some money....There is more going on here than you want to know....and even though I know you have a close relationship with the MHS bball coaches...you have know idea of how they will throw your boy under the bus....know matter how many pizza's you sell...

Just ask Kenny williams and Mr. Liberta? They had him "removed" from his position in the Legion...why do you think his son moved to play at Denbigh's legion

Ask your buddy Howard about Junior legion...and then I'll tell you the truth

1. My son did not want to play legion being only 14 but he is on the team but not currently active, HIS choice. Our family was not concerned with junior legion as most of the JV MHS players were playing Jr. LEAGUE and SR. LEAGUE all-stars and felt confident that their teams would be strong enough to survive D-7 and succeed to state, so Jr. Legion was not an issue. Ask someone else.

2. Talent development, in my opinion, is derived from playing at or above each individual players level for a long period of time, so in other words if you are unhappy because your kid is sitting on the bench then invest in him and get him lessons, sign him up with other tourney teams, pay up! Frankly, by the time your child gets to high school he/she should already be DEVELOPED and as a parent and as a child that wants to succeed in any sport, it is up to them/him to enhance their skills. I hope you are not the kind of parent that complains when their kid sits the bench because he can't play and complains about the coaches but you never pick up a ball to throw with him.

3. Look at Post 25's record for the season, not exactly what I would call beating up on all of the other Legion teams, especially with more than 6 losses in the regular season. Check again! I find it hard to believe that Post 25 is the only Legion team with collegiate players, maybe Sonny Dearth can research and let us all know. I really like Hux and Warthan on the Yorktown team, they are awesome however, our 14U Canes team beat them not once but twice. Because of that I am not so sure that I would have wanted to compete against them, not exactly the greatest of competition for 14, 15, and 16's (Jr. Legion) if a 14U team can beat them. Try again...maybe their coaches need to develop them a little more, do they have any 14 year olds on their team? Certain players getting promoted constantly does stink when it is a team sport, I would agree however, life is not fair and that is just the way it goes. If one is not happy and feels light should be shed on their kid more, move him/her to another school, what is stopping you? You can always shine on a Denbigh Baptist baseball team.

4. I do not need to ask "my buddy" Howard anything. I am not concerned at this point. If my son(s) want to play jr. legion then they can go somewhere else and play, but as now they do not. Kabuki, you are fun.....and though you may know quite a bit about most things or rather enough to be dangerous, you do not know it all, trust me.....if I become unhappy at MHS, my sons will be at Hampton Christian with Coach Moore, bottom line.

[ThatBallPlayer]

It doesnt matter about all of that, YES we know Post 25 have a terrible Organiztion, and YES everyone hates their coaches, but yet? Doesnt everyone hate the Yankees for trading players and gettin fresh faces?

We all know thats not the way to go, but for them its bussiness.

Post 25 has good players, players that come back from college casue they got no playing time an/or stunk up the field.

But really, it did get handed to them, with the rainout an all, cause DHS BY FAR had a better team, and pitching depth. But they didnt play well, an lost.

But for them, states will be very hard, worse than last year.
Watkins isnt throwin as hard an powerfull as before, and the Appr. school duo will get rocked and have a fissy on the mound.

Mayb Shoe will be thier ace in states?? At least hitting wise he will.

Becuase this is a different level than wut u saw Champ. night, none of these kids will touch the states pitchers. These pitcher are GOOD college pitchers that play for respectable D1 schools(like tennesse and UVA)

But nothing more will come of this, DHS an Hampton got robbed, and will try again next year.

P.S. 25 will not be very good next year, considering their "all-stars" wont be there.

So whos pumped about MD starting tommorw?!? Sounds like a better an more competitve topic to me:rockon:

[mhsjvbaseballparent]

What would be fun and decide a "true" champion as so many say would be to have a "playoff" type of series like they do in the MLB, you know the best of 2 out of 3 games wins or 3 out of 5 games wins. I would agree that single elimination type play does not necessarily bring the best TEAM to the ship, but I guess that is the beauty of the game of baseball....any team can be beaten on any given day...ask the NY Yankees....sometimes your the horse and sometimes your the saddle! Go Post 25!!!!:D

[goldglove1]

R and R express is hurt for md.. there are 9 menchville players that wont be there haha so if any of yall would like to play and raise money, please dooo

[ss2nd&pitchermom]

I am from Post 31 and we did get "screwed" so to say on the legion tourament
and it should have never been changed to single eliminaton or to the MHS
field but we - the players & the parents did not have a say so....The coaches
did what they could and were over ridden and the rest is history.....If it had
been 7 innings like the regular season then we would have won but the extra
2 innings changed things and now Post 25 goes on and most the rest of us will
be playing MD for a great cause... Sorry to hear about R & R's situation but
they knew the chances so............."GO CRUSH CON" and everybody come out
and support MD and bring your $$$$- you can make things happen!!

[Tabbfan]

Any updates on the state tournament?

[nancyblackmon]

Post 25 lost to Roanoke Post 3, 6-4 in their tournament opener yesterday. They have a losers bracket game today. For the latest Post 25 news go to: http://www.sportscombine.com/scripts/p_tm_story.asp?t=403010

[ss2nd&pitchermom]

MD INFORMATION: CrushCon (3-0) vs Kempsville (2-1) Friday @ 5:30- Crusch Con wins - Then we celebrate..... Kempsville wins second game @ 8:00 and
CrushCon hopes to celebrate!! These games have been slow start with great
finishes.... Come out and support MD!!

[inthestandsmom]

Post 25 just defeated Norfolk Legion 8 - 7 they now play 10am tomorrow

[nancyblackmon]

State Legion Tourney. Post 25 beat Richmond Post 361, 13-1 this morning. Another game at 8 tonight.

[Nationals 11]

8pm game rained out. Will play Friday after the conclusion of the winners bracket game. Tournament is set to start back up at 10am. Staunton was beating Roanoke 8-5 after 4 when rain set in.

[ThatBallPlayer]

ANyone kno the results yett??

[Shirol]

According to today's paper. Newport News lost to Vienna. Not sure, but I think the score was 4-2.