Phoebus-Woodside 9/14

[Lynn Burke]

Make your pick and discuss the game ...

[twiceasnice757]

UH OH- the district better watch out for those wolverines.. it should be a dandy this friday when they meet phoebus..woodside could arguably have the biggest/strongest line in the district..they have a strong ground attack, and after fridays performance against maury, the qb evans should be beaming with confidence (128 pass yards on 4 completions- 93 rush yards)..just don't be surprised if woodside is able to do what bethel could not- UPSET CITY BABY:boxing:

[Hawkeye06]

don't think a woodside win would be an upset

[twiceasnice757]

You're correct Hawkeye..Only referred to it as an upset b/c Phoebus is ranked 3rd in the state and Woodside isn't even in the top 10.. YET

[Crabbers'D-Crew42]

I most certainly agree with you HawkEye. I don't think anyone but feebus would feel that a loss to Woodside would be an upset. This is "Da District" and anybody can show up @ anytime. Because this is "Da District", I expect the Wolverines to realize that the Phantoms are nothing but a False Illusion. Well alright then, what do you expect a wolverine to do when he runs across a wounded dream?

[Ripklaw]

...Phoebus and Woodside to battle it out...and it ain't even time for the hot chocolate...

[phantomfan]

Wow. This is going to be the game of the week. Anyone going to the crab game?:rolleyes:

[PDfan]

Who do the crawdad's have this week anyway? When do they have Bethel? That's going to be a good one. I'll tell you this though. This isn't the same Bethel team that it's been. I don't think that Hampton has the extra "it" that's needed if they were in a shootout like the Phantoms were this weekend. Hampton is lacking TOO much on offense. We'll see though. Hampton's defense seems tough, an that's what they're going to have to bank on. Does anyone know when they have Bethel?

[Crabbers'D-Crew42]

Hey PDFan you sound like a baby bear(cub). Hampton is not thinking about Bethel @ this time. Hampton is strictly focussed on the Monarchs of Menchville. Right now Menchville is the most dangerous team in the World, US, Va., Eastern Region, Peninsula District or should I say period. This is as far as the Crabbers can see today. Beyond that, I have to look @ a schedule.

What is the extra "it". Does Bethel have it because I must have missed "it" when I saw them play last Friday.

Son, you might want to stay focussed on what is @ hand and don't start sounding like a phantom. You will get your chance to challenge the "crawdads" soon. :o

[PDfan]

CRAB-D,
So this is where you've went off to from the Preps board. That's cool because I like to support local myself. But please don't mistake it that I am just that a PHANTOM FAN!!!!! without a doubt. I was simply stating that a lot of your fellow Crabbers have a lot to say because Bethel was the first team to actually step up and give us a ggood challenge. It's like some of your buddied forgot that ANYTHING is possible on ANY Friday night (Do we need to remind them of what happend on a Friday night last year in the Playoffs versus Maury??? I thought not). But hey Bethel played HARD and Phoebus and it's program respects that. How could your boys want to ride that to the bank because we had to actually PLAY a game. The Crabbers haven't faced a team that's posed a threat to ANYONE yet. Heck Aberdeen Juniors could play good versus that Gramby team, and you know it :)!!!! I was simply stating that hampton will indeed get it's chance to play Bethel and that even before then, maybe THIS week they could get a challenge. Remember that it's ANY given Friday night.....

From other posts and all that I've seen from you I totally understand that you are knowledgable and up on your game, so you should know this. You've always been entertaining and had some good points, so let's "keep the party goin."

Ok SON..... :)

[Ripklaw]

Who do the crawdad's have this week anyway? When do they have Bethel? That's going to be a good one. I'll tell you this though. This isn't the same Bethel team that it's been. I don't think that Hampton has the extra "it" that's needed if they were in a shootout like the Phantoms were this weekend. Hampton is lacking TOO much on offense. We'll see though. Hampton's defense seems tough, an that's what they're going to have to bank on. Does anyone know when they have Bethel?
...The extra "it"...that Bethel does not have...it's simple...the score was tied Feebus 27 Bethel 27 in the fourth quarter...when the bruins called time out on a fourth down...the extra " it " that Bethel did not display..? during the time out the Feebus players jogged over to their sideline like Roman soldiers displaying the stamina needed in middle December when there on only two teams left and the winner gets a ring...i notice the Bethel players were walking over to their sideline with some players taking their helmets off looking into the crowd like they were thinking we can't wait till this is over so we can go hang out at Rooney's and talk about the game...then they went for it fourth down and up short..? so much for Bethel's extra "it"...?

[pigskin_fan]

Great point Ripklaw, that is the extra "it". The worst part about "it" is that "it" seems to be a trait that only Pheobus and Hampton have had in recent years on a consistant basis. Even though this really kills me to say this, it is very true. The rest of the district should take notice of this, they could learn alot about projecting confidence which late in a game can go a long way.... Do You Hear Me WOODSIDE???? Let's bring the Wood!!!!:first: :first: :first:

[Vergil Richardson]

What these scabbers need to realize is that I'm glad Phoebus is playing all the hard games now with little or no injury rather than playing tough games at the end of the season with injuries and worn out players...This District is for Phoebus to loose...lets not make no mistake about it. We are already primed for the tough games. Lets just see how the scabbers do. I to don't believe Hampton have that "if" that can pull them out of a dawg fight...but we will see.

Go Phantoms !!!!!!

[Hawkeye06]

i wouldn't sleep on Gloucester. and you heard it hear first. :eek:

[Crabbers'D-Crew42]

Are you serious Mr. Richardson? Hampton is the reigning Peninsula District Champions. In order for feebus to lose the District they must own(possess) it first. ;)
I'm gonna tell you like I told all your other boys, don't worry about da Crab because they will take care of their own business and I would suggest that those phantums get focussed on the game @ hand. Listen you can't talk up a loss for da Crab. It must be done on the field. :boink:

[Vergil Richardson]

Are you serious Mr. Richardson? Hampton is the reigning Peninsula District Champions. In order for feebus to lose the District they must own(possess) it first. ;)
I'm gonna tell you like I told all your other boys, don't worry about da Crab because they will take care of their own business and I would suggest that those phantums get focussed on the game @ hand. Listen you can't talk up a loss for da Crab. It must be done on the field. :boink:

Crabber D...you can have the PD title....I'd rather have the state title....so yes you are right...y'all are reigning pd champs and we are reigning state champs...now you go figure

[Crabbers'D-Crew42]

I know we can have it, cause we took it.

Isn't it funny how you finished in second place in the Peninsula District and came out first in the State. You did NOT beat the best(HAMPTON) last year so I know your accomplishment feels incomplete. :second:

This certainly explains why everything feebus does and say is directed towards da Crab.
Vergil, after I went to figure I realized feebus does have a legitimate reason to be a WorryWart.http://hrvarsity.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

[Vergil Richardson]

Well it really doesn't matter what kind of spin you put on it we are still reigning state champs.....what do you say about the year Hampton won the state and Phoebus won the district...because that is the going trend here lately for whoever wins the state...and you would be lying to yourself if you said you wasn't worried about Bethel, Woodside etc...it's human nature...so lets not get to cocky here, ie Hampton vs Maury last year....I would think that Maury would have humbled the few unrealistic scabber fans of today but you prove me wrong...

[Vergil Richardson]

I forgot...y'all couldn't beat a team last year that we beat twice...to add to that y'all lost on the home front...we went to Maury and beat them...and then took them behind the wood shed and beat them again...so if you want to access things...I would think that Hampton was only the best team for one night when they beat Phoebus...overall Phoebus was the better team.....take that to the bank buddy

[Ripklaw]

Crabber D...you can have the PD title....I'd rather have the state title....so yes you are right...y'all are reigning pd champs and we are reigning state champs...now you go figure
...Hey great job last year winning another state title...your teams has won 3 this decade...that's truly wonderful...The Program that you lost your last 2 games to...Oh!...they have a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP....only awarded to the #1 team in the NATION....figure

[Ripklaw]

What these scabbers need to realize is that I'm glad Phoebus is playing all the hard games now with little or no injury rather than playing tough games at the end of the season with injuries and worn out players...This District is for Phoebus to loose...lets not make no mistake about it. We are already primed for the tough games. Lets just see how the scabbers do. I to don't believe Hampton have that "if" that can pull them out of a dawg fight...but we will see.

Go Phantoms !!!!!!
...Sounds as if you are making excuses for the reason why your team was playing from behind in the first quarter last week..." Feebus 0 Bethel 7 "..?? Dawg fights go on everyday at practice at The Program...is that the reason why you and the other Fanumb Fands often refer to your teams turn to put on extra padding as " the show down "???...and you guys up here talking about October and they ain't selling hot chocolate at John B. Todd this week..?...Woodsong is resurected

[Vergil Richardson]

No need in going back and forth with you guys...you always want to go back into the past instead of giving us our just do...I give up...thats exactly why I don't root for Hampton in the post season because of arrogance and you all not wanting to give up the past...like I said in a earlier article it it wasn't for you all ( Hampton and Kecoughtan) stealing players out of the Phoebus zone....and all of the kids that all of a sutton started living at uncle June Bugs house...or Big mommas house and all the Rocks, Lenwood Lumpkins, and Tony Clarks of the world that I still to this day can't figure how they were eligible to play ball I would like to see how many State titles you would have..and to add to that the 100 year head start that Hampton had on every school thats why your program is more storied...and I give you that...I brag about Hampton's program outside of the state because yes I'm proud of the Tidewater tradition...but guys it's really time to look at the programs today for what they are...and give us our **** props...I don't want to get to deep with this because you will never understand...but I would honestly say that Phoebus always had the talent even back in the day......lets keep it in the present and root our teams to victory and at the end of the year lets bragg

[Ripklaw]

No need in going back and forth with you guys...you always want to go back into the past instead of giving us our just do...I give up...thats exactly why I don't root for Hampton in the post season because of arrogance and you all not wanting to give up the past...like I said in a earlier article it it wasn't for you all ( Hampton and Kecoughtan) stealing players out of the Phoebus zone....and all of the kids that all of a sutton started living at uncle June Bugs house...or Big mommas house and all the Rocks, Lenwood Lumpkins, and Tony Clarks of the world that I still to this day can't figure how they were eligible to play ball I would like to see how many State titles you would have..and to add to that the 100 year head start that Hampton had on every school thats why your program is more storied...and I give you that...I brag about Hampton's program outside of the state because yes I'm proud of the Tidewater tradition...but guys it's really time to look at the programs today for what they are...and give us our **** props...I don't want to get to deep with this because you will never understand...but I would honestly say that Phoebus always had the talent even back in the day......lets keep it in the present and root our teams to victory and at the end of the year lets bragg
...You crying...crying like you just took a lost....You must have played at Feebus back when we shut yall out 3 years in a row...LINE UP AND RUN THE PLAY!!! and then RUN IT AGAIN!!...I got much love for Feebus...i used to live off of County St...You people need to get to the games earlier to support your team and stop getting to the stadium all late as if your team is playing good defense...If it wasn't for cell phones you would've had to watch the news or read the DAILY PRESS the next day about how Bethel scored on their first play...Buckle up, put your mouth piece in...you got Woodsong Friday...

[Vergil Richardson]

Man you all off the chart...this is a forum for Phoebus vs Woodside football and you want to go off the chart and talk about support ... cell phones getting to games late and such....sound like you have a tension disorder. You might want to get check into a charter facility near you...

[Vergil Richardson]

...You crying...crying like you just took a lost....You must have played at Feebus back when we shut yall out 3 years in a row...LINE UP AND RUN THE PLAY!!! and then RUN IT AGAIN!!...I got much love for Feebus...i used to live off of County St...You people need to get to the games earlier to support your team and stop getting to the stadium all late as if your team is playing good defense...If it wasn't for cell phones you would've had to watch the news or read the DAILY PRESS the next day about how Bethel scored on their first play...Buckle up, put your mouth piece in...you got Woodsong Friday...

Oh and let me guess you lived off County St. when you were probably in the 10th grade and then you moved to your uncle June Bugs house in the 11th grade....

[Ripklaw]

...Woodside(woodsong)...at practice working like it's the state championship they are playing this week...the fans are pumped...Woodsong is 2-0...oh yall Fanumb fans think it's a joke..? aight...your team got stole on last week... and Woodsong might be Poppa Smurf... so don't get snuck!..when running down the field keep ya head on a swivel

[wolverineboy]

i'm sry, but i thought this was the woodside-phoebus discussion....not hampton and phoebus, ya'll talk bout that when ya'll play each other but right now, the game of the week is woodside-phoebus, thats the focus.

[phantomfan]

If everyone would just ignore Miss Ripklaw, things would be just fine.:D

[The Educator]

The thing everyone has to remember is that Phoebus has become accustomed to winning now. When the game was on the line against Bethel, they played flawlessly and came away with the win. I guarantee you that they had a great week of practice and worked hard to correct the problems they had in the run game. Woodside better bring it this week because the Phantoms will be ready. I predict Phoebus 30, Woodside 7.

[WoHS Football]

ok here it is simply

woodside has an AMAZING run offense with 4 backs to get the job done and the HUGE offensive line probably the best O line in the district its passing offense is exceptional proved in last weeks 28-16 win vs maury the wolverines rush D is great however woodsides passing defense has some weaknesses and could be "bigger" but their athleticism makes up for it... overall "DA WOOD'S" defense is pretty good

pheobus has the QB and an outstanding passing game a good run offense not as good as woodsides but good... defensively the phantoms like the wolverines have weaknesses but yet good and very athletic so look for alot of points in this matchup

woodside is better than people think and pheobus isnt as good as people think look at last weeks game vs bethel... ya they have a VERY good squad but not last years unbeatable team and if anyone can beat the phantoms in the PD its woodside

its going to be a high scoring CLOSE game but woodside will come out on top by less than 7 points

WOODSIDE:31 PHEOBUS:27

[Ripklaw]

[quote=WoHS Football;11602]ok here it is simply

woodside has an AMAZING run offense with 4 backs to get the job done and the HUGE offensive line probably the best O line in the district its passing offense is exceptional proved in last weeks 28-16 win vs maury the wolverines rush D is great however woodsides passing defense has some weaknesses and could be "bigger" but their athleticism makes up for it... overall "DA WOOD'S" defense is pretty good

pheobus has the QB and an outstanding passing game a good run offense not as good as woodsides but good... defensively the phantoms like the wolverines have weaknesses but yet good and very athletic so look for alot of points in this matchup

woodside is better than people think and pheobus isnt as good as people think look at last weeks game vs bethel... ya they have a VERY good squad but not last years unbeatable team and if anyone can beat the phantoms in the PD its woodside

its going to be a high scoring CLOSE game but woodside will come out on top by less than 7 points

WOODSIDE:31 PHEOBUS:27[/quo correction Feebus was not unbeatable last year...they lost one game...

[Ripklaw]

If everyone would just ignore Miss Ripklaw, things would be just fine.:D
you only type in childish insults because..1.) the history of the team your cheer for includes many many losing seasons...i mean we can go to the DAILY PRESS archives start from the year 1978 for proof...and 2.) i admitted to you that im from the GRIDs, from a time what COACH called Football in it's Purest Form..i can post up the DAILY PRESS artical as proof..you...you are just a funny guy and..i noticed you leaving the game the other weekend..you seem like a very mature, passive, intelligent, college grad, proud parent, father husbandly type guy...then you get up here and act like a " Pansy "... back and forth with BHS cheerleaders and such...why don't you talk about the facts..? why rent space in your brain to insult me, the history, my experiences, and the facts...? The Program is on display tonight at John B. Todd...vs the Monarchs...Tomorrow it's the Wolverines vs.the wounded dream...

[phantomfan]

ok here it is simply

woodside has an AMAZING run offense with 4 backs to get the job done and the HUGE offensive line probably the best O line in the district its passing offense is exceptional proved in last weeks 28-16 win vs maury the wolverines rush D is great however woodsides passing defense has some weaknesses and could be "bigger" but their athleticism makes up for it... overall "DA WOOD'S" defense is pretty good

pheobus has the QB and an outstanding passing game a good run offense not as good as woodsides but good... defensively the phantoms like the wolverines have weaknesses but yet good and very athletic so look for alot of points in this matchup

woodside is better than people think and pheobus isnt as good as people think look at last weeks game vs bethel... ya they have a VERY good squad but not last years unbeatable team and if anyone can beat the phantoms in the PD its woodside

its going to be a high scoring CLOSE game but woodside will come out on top by less than 7 points

WOODSIDE:31 PHEOBUS:27

I have to say, you make a good case for Woodside. But let's get real when you say that" Phoebus is not as good as people think, look at last weeks game vs Bethel". Well, when your time comes to face Bethel, you better come with everything and some more. These guys are no joke. And, like in the Bethel game, if you can't stop the passing attack of Taj Boyd and believe me, I'm not used to this neither, its going to be an interesting meeting. :yo:

Phoebus:37 Woodside: 21

[ashleys]

I want to second the PDfan...ppl love to always make a big deal out of who is better btwn Phoebus and Hampton. It speaks for itself. PHOEBUS is the state champion for 1 reason and 1 reason only!! They were and still are the better team. No matter what ppl say, Hampton DID NOT make it past the semifinals last year and thats that!!! Bethel played a VERY good game against us last week and I applaud them. Everyone that is a sports fan know that everyone plays UP to the winning team and thats exactly what Bethel did. I heard several ppl in the crowd saying "oh well they haven't played a good team like Hampton yet" so we really can't say how good Phoebus is. GET OUT OF HERE!! If thats the case, then why in the heck are ppl making such a big deal out of Hampton. Come on now, they won by ONLY 14 points against Glouster!!!!!!! What!!!!!!?? And then they play Menchville, who is that? So please lets be real, they haven't done anything to say they are the better team this year AT ALL!!! Only time will tell. And for those Hampton fans that are always coming to the Phantom games just to wish bad, we appreciate the sponsorship because you paying to come to the game and just hate, is really sponsoring the WONDERFUL BLUE AND GOLD.....THANKS:)


LETS GO PHANTOMS....LETS GO!!!!!:)

[Damosthene]

I want to second the PDfan...ppl love to always make a big deal out of who is better btwn Phoebus and Hampton. It speaks for itself. PHOEBUS is the state champion for 1 reason and 1 reason only!! They were and still are the better team. No matter what ppl say, Hampton DID NOT make it past the semifinals last year and thats that!!! Bethel played a VERY good game against us last week and I applaud them. Everyone that is a sports fan know that everyone plays UP to the winning team and thats exactly what Bethel did. I heard several ppl in the crowd saying "oh well they haven't played a good team like Hampton yet" so we really can't say how good Phoebus is. GET OUT OF HERE!! If thats the case, then why in the heck are ppl making such a big deal out of Hampton. Come on now, they won by ONLY 14 points against Glouster!!!!!!! What!!!!!!?? And then they play Menchville, who is that? So please lets be real, they haven't done anything to say they are the better team this year AT ALL!!! Only time will tell. And for those Hampton fans that are always coming to the Phantom games just to wish bad, we appreciate the sponsorship because you paying to come to the game and just hate, is really sponsoring the WONDERFUL BLUE AND GOLD.....THANKS:)


LETS GO PHANTOMS....LETS GO!!!!!:)

I have to interject here on the Hampton fans talking trash at PHS games.At least the Hampton team doesn't show up and boo them.I have been attending PD games for years and years.Lately there is a trend for a certain teams players to sit in the stands and act like fools.Disrespectful and no class.

[Crabbers'D-Crew42]

Thanks RipKlawMcGraw, the history is always important and informative.. feebus will have a tough game tonight and will be tough because feebus keep listening to the people patting them on their back. Listen to wisdom and history and the facts and then you may become a consistent winner.

I do want feebus to win because they are of the HAMPTON side of the PD.:wacko:

[Ripklaw]

[quote=WoHS Football;11602]ok here it is simply

woodside has an AMAZING run offense with 4 backs to get the job done and the HUGE offensive line probably the best O line in the district its passing offense is exceptional proved in last weeks 28-16 win vs maury the wolverines rush D is great however woodsides passing defense has some weaknesses and could be "bigger" but their athleticism makes up for it... overall "DA WOOD'S" defense is pretty good

pheobus has the QB and an outstanding passing game a good run offense not as good as woodsides but good... defensively the phantoms like the wolverines have weaknesses but yet good and very athletic so look for alot of points in this matchup

woodside is better than people think and pheobus isnt as good as people think look at last weeks game vs bethel... ya they have a VERY good squad but not last years unbeatable team and if anyone can beat the phantoms in the PD its woodside

its going to be a high scoring CLOSE game but woodside will come out on top by less than 7 points

WOODSIDE:31 PHEOBUS:27[/quo correction Feebus was not unbeatable last year...they lost one game...
I did not post this...these are not my words

[macraw83]

quite seriousl, this is the most interesting game of the season so far. Woodside is a very improved team over last year. They destroyed a decent Denbigh team who turned around and played a good Lake Taylor team close. Then Woodside came out again and beat Maury by 12. Yes, Phoebus had a better game against the Commodores, but they had a great deal of struggles against a Bethel team that has been known as an underachiever in recent seasons. This game could come out either way, probably within a touchdown. Both teams showed great offensive ability, and both teams also showed weaknesses on defense, so I expect a shootout. My prediction, Woodside 40, Phoebus 38.

[Vergil Richardson]

LOL yeah it was a high scoring game...but only on one side.....The real Phantom team stepped in the house tonight and proved you peeps wrong...and for all the scabber fans...just make sure you are 6-0 coming into the Phoebus vs Hampton matchup.....and a end note...make sure Warwick doesn't put you out of the playoffs at the end of the season...by then you will have 2 L's in the column. Make sure you make the playoffs...

[sixerfan885]

No need in going back and forth with you guys...you always want to go back into the past instead of giving us our just do...I give up...thats exactly why I don't root for Hampton in the post season because of arrogance and you all not wanting to give up the past...like I said in a earlier article it it wasn't for you all ( Hampton and Kecoughtan) stealing players out of the Phoebus zone....and all of the kids that all of a sutton started living at uncle June Bugs house...or Big mommas house and all the Rocks, Lenwood Lumpkins, and Tony Clarks of the world that I still to this day can't figure how they were eligible to play ball I would like to see how many State titles you would have..and to add to that the 100 year head start that Hampton had on every school thats why your program is more storied...and I give you that...I brag about Hampton's program outside of the state because yes I'm proud of the Tidewater tradition...but guys it's really time to look at the programs today for what they are...and give us our **** props...I don't want to get to deep with this because you will never understand...but I would honestly say that Phoebus always had the talent even back in the day......lets keep it in the present and root our teams to victory and at the end of the year lets bragg


V Richardson, even though I agree with you on waiting until the end of the year to find out what team will come out on top before we celebrate, you still are missing/or have some points wrong.

When you say lets not live in the past but the present, I totally agree. The only problem is, if there wasn't a past, their will be no present to talk about. When you talk about how the former Crabber teams was made up of players from other school zones, this is where I disagree.

1) Lenny Lumpkins was a homegrown crabber just like his brother George who played before him

2) The Rock's and Tony Clarkes were Victoria Blvd and Pine Chapel members which were Hampton school zones.

3) Kecoughtan and Hampton stealing players back in the day from Phoebus? Lets see, most of Hampton players played for either Lindsay or Jeff Davis Jr High. When they were younger, they played rec league football for Armstong (Ke tan). For the ones who lived out in Fox Hill, they played for the Fox Hill rec teams. These guys were home grown. You always had players wanting to play for other schools, but most stayed at home. Kecoughtan wasn't quite the force that Bethel was. The Bethel players played side by side with the Hampton players in Jr high. So they knew each other pretty well. Eaton Jr high had all of Bethel future players on their teams. Nothing was stolen from Phoebus. All schools were competitive to a certain degree. Winning traditions is what Hampton and Bethel strived on. Kecoughtan has had some good looking teams as well. The talent in the PD helped whomever went on into the playoffs.

Back in 81' Hampton faced an issue that was the first of its kind. Butch Pegram (previous all district )was a receiver from Menchville that had transfered to Hampton. Of course this didn't sit well with Coach Nuttycombe (Menchville's coach). They took this to the VSHL and after a long investigation, they handed Hampton a two game forfeit. Now everyone looked at Bethel winning the PD (because usually if Hampton didn't win it, Bethel did). This only made the Krabba nation stronger. That team put everything behind them and went to the state championship and won. On the field they were undefeated. When you played for Hampton back then, Coach Mann, and Mitchell always talked about "Crabber Pride". This is what you believed in during the offseason and throughout the season .

Acros Mercury Blvd, Bethel was doing something special themselves. They would always dominate everyone else in the PD. That "wishbone" attack was no joke. They wore defenses down with it. The PD was decided by the Bethel vs Hampton game that was played on Saturday afternoon. It seems the city of Hampton would shut down because everyone was at Darling stadium .

I have been out of the state of VA for several years now, but I have been able to keep up for the most part. I'm glad to see Phoebus doing well in the PD as well as the state. Phoebus has come a long way. Some teams have fell off quite a bit and some have maintained.



Just don't get it confused when you talk about the PD or how Phoebus deserves the respect. I have been all over the world and throughout the United States and when it comes to football for the state of VA, people do talk about the PD football. They have heard about the Crabbers, Phantoms, Bruins. They know whats here. I have seen some football programs that are unbelievable, so I do appreciate the talent that comes out of this area. Phoebus has come along way and they have a pretty good program (one of the best in the state no doubt). So as far as giving them their do, it was given years ago. Regardless of what some might say or think, crabber fans respect the Phoebus program just like back in the day when they respected Bethel.

[Vergil Richardson]

V Richardson, even though I agree with you on waiting until the end of the year to find out what team will come out on top before we celebrate, you still are missing/or have some points wrong.

When you say lets not live in the past but the present, I totally agree. The only problem is, if there wasn't a past, their will be no present to talk about. When you talk about how the former Crabber teams was made up of players from other school zones, this is where I disagree.

1) Lenny Lumpkins was a homegrown crabber just like his brother George who played before him

2) The Rock's and Tony Clarkes were Victoria Blvd and Pine Chapel members which were Hampton school zones.

3) Kecoughtan and Hampton stealing players back in the day from Phoebus? Lets see, most of Hampton players played for either Lindsay or Jeff Davis Jr High. When they were younger, they played rec league football for Armstong (Ke tan). For the ones who lived out in Fox Hill, they played for the Fox Hill rec teams. These guys were home grown. You always had players wanting to play for other schools, but most stayed at home. Kecoughtan wasn't quite the force that Bethel was. The Bethel players played side by side with the Hampton players in Jr high. So they knew each other pretty well. Eaton Jr high had all of Bethel future players on their teams. Nothing was stolen from Phoebus. All schools were competitive to a certain degree. Winning traditions is what Hampton and Bethel strived on. Kecoughtan has had some good looking teams as well. The talent in the PD helped whomever went on into the playoffs.

Back in 81' Hampton faced an issue that was the first of its kind. Butch Pegram (previous all district )was a receiver from Menchville that had transfered to Hampton. Of course this didn't sit well with Coach Nuttycombe (Menchville's coach). They took this to the VSHL and after a long investigation, they handed Hampton a two game forfeit. Now everyone looked at Bethel winning the PD (because usually if Hampton didn't win it, Bethel did). This only made the Krabba nation stronger. That team put everything behind them and went to the state championship and won. On the field they were undefeated. When you played for Hampton back then, Coach Mann, and Mitchell always talked about "Crabber Pride". This is what you believed in during the offseason and throughout the season .

Acros Mercury Blvd, Bethel was doing something special themselves. They would always dominate everyone else in the PD. That "wishbone" attack was no joke. They wore defenses down with it. The PD was decided by the Bethel vs Hampton game that was played on Saturday afternoon. It seems the city of Hampton would shut down because everyone was at Darling stadium .

I have been out of the state of VA for several years now, but I have been able to keep up for the most part. I'm glad to see Phoebus doing well in the PD as well as the state. Phoebus has come a long way. Some teams have fell off quite a bit and some have maintained.



Just don't get it confused when you talk about the PD or how Phoebus deserves the respect. I have been all over the world and throughout the United States and when it comes to football for the state of VA, people do talk about the PD football. They have heard about the Crabbers, Phantoms, Bruins. They know whats here. I have seen some football programs that are unbelievable, so I do appreciate the talent that comes out of this area. Phoebus has come along way and they have a pretty good program (one of the best in the state no doubt). So as far as giving them their do, it was given years ago. Regardless of what some might say or think, crabber fans respect the Phoebus program just like back in the day when they respected Bethel.

Nicely put sixerfan...When I was talking about Lenwood Lumpkins and Tony Clark I was questioning there elligibility but I'm talking about players that I grew up playing football with like Robbie Robinson great Hampton running back in the late 80's probably the best back that Hampton ever had that got no respect....I grew up and played with Dwight Hollier that lived 2 streets over from me and lived across the street with people that I went to school with...and he ends up at Kecoughtan. When I played for foxhill I played with alot of players that should have been going to Kecoughtan but ended up at Hampton as well...but that not either here or there...like you said I'm proud of the rich tradition and power that the PD hold...population wise I think we are on the national stage....I'm not a hater in no kind of way...I want all the teams to be good...I never wish that Hampton would have a bad year...because without Hampton or Phoebus for that matter the PD would be hmmmm I don't know...lol....because now I'm thinking about when Heritage won state...it was very interesting and like a breath of fresh air to see someone else win it...oh one side note...And lets not make no mistake about it I would never disrespect hampton and say they stole players to a degree that made them state champs...but I would say some players here and there could have made a world of difference for other teams..But hey man thanks for your input...your input is most appreciated.....it doesn't sound bias its just the plain truth...props to you bruh

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I most certainly agree with you HawkEye. I don't think anyone but feebus would feel that a loss to Woodside would be an upset. This is "Da District" and anybody can show up @ anytime. Because this is "Da District", I expect the Wolverines to realize that the Phantoms are nothing but a False Illusion. Well alright then, what do you expect a wolverine to do when he runs across a wounded dream?

Probably the same thing the KWABBERS are going to do.......:lalala: