View Full Version : 9/29: Smithfield-Warhill
Lynn Burke
09-23-2007, 09:34 AM
Who will win? Make your pick and discuss the game ...
Packer Smithfield
09-23-2007, 03:24 PM
Warhill has a good young coach he was at Smithfield for a year or two good football man but even though that is the case Smithfield will win because of talent and talent only.
AnotherGraftonDad
09-23-2007, 04:52 PM
After reading all the posts lately by the Packer faithful, I can tell that you all are very strong supporters of your team and also have very strong opinions. As a result, I ask this relatively simple question: If you were the coach, how long does Roberts play against Warhill? I imagine you could make the score whatever you want. Do you set his playing time to a number like 200 yards rushing or tell him he'll play two quarters or will the score dictate? I figure some of you might have an opinion on this since the last thing you would want is a freak injury in a game that's already won.
GraftonDad08
09-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Smithfield wins this one 49-0.
newkentdad
09-23-2007, 07:20 PM
After reading all the posts lately by the Packer faithful, I can tell that you all are very strong supporters of your team and also have very strong opinions. As a result, I ask this relatively simple question: If you were the coach, how long does Roberts play against Warhill? I imagine you could make the score whatever you want. Do you set his playing time to a number like 200 yards rushing or tell him he'll play two quarters or will the score dictate? I figure some of you might have an opinion on this since the last thing you would want is a freak injury in a game that's already won.
Great question, I was wondering the exact same thing. Not sure why you wouldn't give him the night off after the way he worked on Friday. Certainly won't need him.
packerdad1
09-23-2007, 09:49 PM
After reading all the posts lately by the Packer faithful, I can tell that you all are very strong supporters of your team and also have very strong opinions. As a result, I ask this relatively simple question: If you were the coach, how long does Roberts play against Warhill? I imagine you could make the score whatever you want. Do you set his playing time to a number like 200 yards rushing or tell him he'll play two quarters or will the score dictate? I figure some of you might have an opinion on this since the last thing you would want is a freak injury in a game that's already won.
Great question. My opinion is first half and thats it regardless of how far we might be ahead and let some of the other guys get in and play
Scout Master_
09-23-2007, 11:24 PM
Who will win? Make your pick and discuss the game ...
Before I try to voice my opinion on this match up, I must clean up my slate by saying I was wrong about Tabb's expectations in the last game with Smithfield. Tabb, you guys are the team to beat . Look out Lafeyette, Tabb is no cakewalk they were the toughest guys Smithfield has met . Smithfield hurt themselves with so many penalties,where Tabb had only 2. I pick Smithfield over Warhill. But, it is sad to think about what I believe is going to happen. I think that Coach Frasier is going to let Dyrell Roberts break his all time record on yard's, touchdowns, passing yards etc.....Come on coach give the other players a chance to shine if your team is up by 4 touchdowns and it is only halftime.Smithfield has no problems with defense that number 4 Roderick Bowser and number 5 Derek Shaffer, Do you guys realize they get 20 to 30 tackels in all the games so far between the two.Just ask Corey Legester with Tabb what number hit him first. How about that sack that Shaffer got on Tabb's QB.While I got the opportunity to mention other players that are just fine where their at .Derrick Artis no.71 he's another great tackler,no.53 Dustin Hornsby ,Jordon Eason,Smithfield 56 Warhill 7.
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 07:13 AM
Smithfield will win this game whether Roberts suits up or not. Why wouldn't the coaches give him a rest this week? Records are nice but you guys are not out of the playoffs yet. Why wouldn't you rest up your big gun so he is fresh for the final push and at the same time give other guys some playing time. Only way Smithfield loses this game is if the forget to show up. It would be a shame for Roberts to get some cheap injury trying to break records. Just my opinion but if I'm coaching he sits, to much season left to be thinking about individual records.
Clipper_Fan
09-24-2007, 10:04 AM
Smithfield will win. You can use this game to set records but everyone will know it was against a first year team that has more in common with a JV team than Varsity. That makes it an empty record(s) if you ask me. Set a record against an established team and then you can talk.
Give Warhill a couple of years to mature as a program.
cheermom
09-24-2007, 12:16 PM
I am curious I haven't paid alot of attention to warhill other than they have one of our coaches as their head coach now. but.. have all the teams taken it easy on warhill?
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 01:46 PM
Taking it easy might be an exageration but I know both York and NK started pulling starters in the third quarter. Granted in NK case it wasn't a lot of guys but when you only suit up 32 for the game thier are not alot of subs. Both teams continued to score but niether was trying to run it up, it just came as part of the game. Warhill is very young, if I remember right of the 40 players 30 are either freshman or sophmores. You are going to set some team records on them with out trying, but got to agree with Clipper Fan, to purposly use them to set a record would make it hollow. Really cheapen the accomplishment.
cheermom
09-24-2007, 01:54 PM
I cannot imagine that Coach Fraser would do any thing like that to the team or another team or to our boys... but i guess we will all have to wait and see.
I thought that Warhill was a split off of Laf hs? do they have alot of Freshman? or is it just new school new blend type of deal?
thanks for the info ...
cheermom
09-24-2007, 01:56 PM
also..
i agree we don't want "cheapened" records Dyrell can do just fine in that area without this game!
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 02:09 PM
Warhill picked up students from both Jamestown and Lafayette. The bulk of the juniors and seniors stayed at thier previos school. The kids playing varsity for Warhill are primarily ones that would have been on Lafayette and Smithfields JV teams, thats not to say there are not good players just they would have been waiting at least another year for slots to open if they were at either of the other two schools. I will give them credit, they play hard and never quit. They have the right attitude and as they mature will get better and better.
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 02:13 PM
Don,t get me wrong on the record thing. I doubt Dyrell would want to set any personel best unless it was against the best. He plays to hard and is to good to want anything less.
cheermom
09-24-2007, 02:46 PM
I didn't realize there were so many kids on the team!! well in another year or so they should be on top... Lemn is a great coach.
and i totally agree about Dyrell, he is a smart boy i trust he will get it straight.
PACKER BACKER
09-24-2007, 03:23 PM
When Coach Lemn was at Smithfield, he was well respected by the players and the Coaching staff. He made a career move that looks to have worked out for him. I personally, wish him nothing but the best. I'm sure that Coach Fraser has a lot of respect for Coach Lemn, I have heard him speak very highly of him. For anyone to come on here and speculate as to whether the Smithfield Staff is going to let Dyrell run wild is very unfair and unfounded. Warhill is going to experience some serious growing pains, obviously as a first year program. I guess I'm kind of shocked that someone would EVEN think something like that. Who's to say that the final score doesn't end up 28-21? How much is too much? What's your definition of too much? If Smithfield beats Warhill 35-28 and Dyrell gets 350 yards rushing and 5 touchdowns....does that mean that Coach Fraser let Dyrell's numbers get inflated on a weak team? Just curious....that's all!:rolleyes:
Warhill does not have a senior class and only has an enrollment of about 700. They are the third highschool in James City County, taking kids from both Lafayette and Jamestown after the county was re-districted.
They are young and not very good right now, but they do have some athletes. The Packers can name the score in this one.
cheermom
09-24-2007, 03:37 PM
THANK YOU WAYNE!!!!
I was a bit lost on the same topics. I have gone to many games and I seem to remeber the scores being one sided on many a Friday night, I have also seen teams we beat with no problem the year before come back and stomp us the next year? At what point are we supposed to take it easy??? My other question is why did I not read this about any other warhill vs. anyone else game .... except about "Dyrell" and Smithfield??
I would guess you have not heard about this because they have only played 3 or 4 games in their history. The information is all new.
THANK YOU WAYNE!!!!
I was a bit lost on the same topics. I have gone to many games and I seem to remeber the scores being one sided on many a Friday night, I have also seen teams we beat with no problem the year before come back and stomp us the next year? At what point are we supposed to take it easy??? My other question is why did I not read this about any other warhill vs. anyone else game .... except about "Dyrell" and Smithfield??
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 03:51 PM
I would guess you have not heard about this because they have only played 3 or 4 games in their history. The information is all new.
Got to tell you that everyone of the NK players that I taked to said Warhill had nothing but class. They fought hard, never gave up but no one has said anything about being dirty. In fact my son twisted his knee Friday and several Warhill players checked in with him after the game to make sure it was not serious. He informed me he had nothing but respect for Warhill, no trash talking no cheap shots. Not sure were the info came from but I didn't see any evidence of it on Friday night.
cheermom
09-24-2007, 03:55 PM
I would guess you have not heard about this because they have only played 3 or 4 games in their history. The information is all new.
i meant that i had not heard of any comments made to the other teams who have played Warhill this season to take it easy????
I can not imagine that everyone telling the "big bad experienced' teams to take it easy on them is doing great things for the self esteem of warhill? would you want people to ask other teams to take it easy on your favorite?
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 04:00 PM
When Coach Lemn was at Smithfield, he was well respected by the players and the Coaching staff. He made a career move that looks to have worked out for him. I personally, wish him nothing but the best. I'm sure that Coach Fraser has a lot of respect for Coach Lemn, I have heard him speak very highly of him. For anyone to come on here and speculate as to whether the Smithfield Staff is going to let Dyrell run wild is very unfair and unfounded. Warhill is going to experience some serious growing pains, obviously as a first year program. I guess I'm kind of shocked that someone would EVEN think something like that. Who's to say that the final score doesn't end up 28-21? How much is too much? What's your definition of too much? If Smithfield beats Warhill 35-28 and Dyrell gets 350 yards rushing and 5 touchdowns....does that mean that Coach Fraser let Dyrell's numbers get inflated on a weak team? Just curious....that's all!:rolleyes:
The converstion got sideways. The original question was how much if any Dyrell might play. Then someone threw in the " using Warhill " to pad out stats thing. Kinda went to **** after that. I don't disagree with what you said but if its 40 to 0 at half why would you keep playing him?
cheermom
09-24-2007, 04:12 PM
If the score was 40 to 0 why would we play Dyrell? I would imagine (not living inside fraser's brain) that we would play everyone else by then--- Wow... everyone must see Smithfield as the devil or something????? what the world?
From my understanding of coaches, most of them will not go into a game trying to pad a kid's stats. Most coaches, believe it or not, don't even look at the stat sheet until after the game. The only thing that they will look at is the scoreboard for the SCORE and the TIME.
When ahead, they want the time to tick away faster. When they are behind, they want it to slow down.
Smithfield, as far as I know, has not run up the score on anyone purposefully. In fact, there are very few teams in the BRD that do that sort of thing.
Peninsula District coaches have a different mentality, I think.
newkentdad
09-24-2007, 04:32 PM
No mam cheermom, but that pretty much is what started the conversation. Assuming Smithfield will do as well as the other teams that played Warhill, how long would Dyrell play if any. Then the suggestion came in that they might still continue to play him after the 40-0 at half just to pad stats. Thats when it went south. Besides we all know TABB is really the devil. LOL just kidding. Also I did not mean to imply that teams were taking it easy on Warhill. There just comes a time with the game in hand that you call off the dogs. I am sure that the Smithfield staff will do exactly that. Once the game is in hand Dyrell will become a cheer leader for the other guys.
packerdad1
09-24-2007, 05:33 PM
everbody is right. my opinion is open up the playbook with everybody else. let dyrell play qb when he is on the field (no disrespect 2 Randall because he was awsome to me last game). I'd like to say that Randall is a born leader. I love that kid. He is such a fighter. Randall keep it up son, ur doing fine.
AnotherGraftonDad
09-24-2007, 06:09 PM
If the score was 40 to 0 why would we play Dyrell? I would imagine (not living inside fraser's brain) that we would play everyone else by then--- Wow... everyone must see Smithfield as the devil or something????? what the world?
Cheermom, I asked the original question because I think this will be a relatively unique occasion this year by having a legitimate Division 1-A talent like D. Roberts running through the Warhill team. I just was wondering what people thought and I'm definitely not saying anything one way or another about your team or coaching. I haven't seen Warhill play yet but from what I've read, they try hard but it will take some time and experience for their team to really compete. I would expect Dyrell to make some long runs pretty quickly in this game. IMO, he should play for at least some part of the game if for no other reason than to show the Warhill team and fans what your team can do with all the weapons on the field. However, I don't know anything - haven't seen your team play this year nor know much about the entire team. Good luck with the game and the rest of the season - looking forward to making the trip and enjoying your hospitality in a few weeks!
Packer Fan
09-24-2007, 10:05 PM
Dyrell, Dyrell, Dyrell. Dyrell all I have heard about this season is Dyrell. I have watched every game this year including the scrimmages and I am here to say that Dyrell is hurting this team more than he is helping!!!! Don't get me wrong he is extremely talented BUT there are many more talented players on this team. Coack Fraiser's offense is absolutely worthless right now. Against Tabb he essentially said te rest of his team couldn't play. Come on coach how manys times are you going to run the direct snap. Funny thing you actually moved the ball when you put the QB back in and (oh my god) actually threw the ball.
Another thing more than once, I've watched Dyrell loaf when the play wasn't called to him. I've seen him walk back to the team hudle and I actually watched him walk to the coaches huddle. Many times he could have blocked for CJ or Randall but didn't do it b/c he's to good for that. Coach Fraser may except lackadasical play like that but I can 100% gaurantee Coack Beamer WONT!
Lets finally get some disiplne!!! No stupid penalties!! ALL 22 players play hard all game!!!! And fight your way into the playoffs!!!
cheermom
09-24-2007, 10:11 PM
do you actually know Dyrell?
BRD25836
09-24-2007, 10:30 PM
Man! If yall could actually hear yourselves.............
cheermom
09-24-2007, 10:30 PM
meaning?
BRD25836
09-24-2007, 10:36 PM
Read the post and see what yall are saying about your team. I only hope your players aren't reading this post.......If you can sleep at night after reading what yall are saying; have a nut.
cheermom
09-24-2007, 11:10 PM
It is just so amazing to me that every week we go thru this crud you talk like you all know each one of these boys on some personal level, sure some of you may, i know one of you see's the sidelines each game and you know how this team is ... THIS FAMILY IS.. but if you could just understand why calling them lazy or saying they think they are too good is so off the wall and can cause so much damage you would stop it. you do not need to call these boys any of them out by name and talk about them like they are splashed across a tabloid he is a kid they are all kids.... period. kids who has been given a gift and they use that gift to get to college. and all the way there you pick and pick and pick and try to destroy what should be the time of these boys lives. this is not the nfl this is not something they get paid to do.
these boys all of them district wide give up all their time.. they live eat and breathe football all summer long they are in conditioning.. by game time they are all banged up and sore... after every game there are so many ice packs stitches bandages i have lost count... but someone every week feels it necessary to call someone out by name and tell them how awful they are....
and we are the adults???? get serious
new shs fan
09-24-2007, 11:26 PM
AMEN CHEERMOM! Lets stop tearing these boys apart and sit back and enjoy the game! I definitely plan to be there :D
SFFan
09-25-2007, 07:30 AM
Go Cheermom! I don't know one kid on the team that doesn't work their butt off every day. If people don't belive that, then they should spend some time with the players and look at the sweat, blood, bruises, injuries, and passion. Especially after a great game like the Tabb game was. As far as Dyrell goes, I personally don't know how he continues to do as much as he does. I my opinion the coach relies on him too much. He risks Dyrell getting hurt by playing him in games that we are winning big. I would hate to see him hurt before he ever steps on a college field. I agree with PackerFan, that we have to many talented players to let something like that happen.
I predict SHS wins big over Warhill. Unfortunately, I also predict that Dyrell will play the whole game regardless of the score.
Good luck Pack!
PACKER BACKER
09-25-2007, 07:37 AM
OK Packer Fan, now I have finally had my fill of your C R A P. Everyone that cares to know who I am knows who I am and it's pretty easy to figure it out....I'm wearing the Smithfield ball cap on the sidelines each week taking pictures....everyone at SHS knows that my name is Wayne Blanchard....I support my Packers 100%, let me suggest that you change your name to something with "hater" in it. You're making me ill with those foul, hate filled, jealous rants. Grow up or or better yet STFU! You obviously don't have the balls to approach Fraser or Dyrell or any other kid or coach on this team....come see me Saturday night, I'll gladly introduce you to everyone on the team and coaches, you know, the ones that you have no problem with dragging down on this board, hiding behind some anonymous screen name. You are an embarrassment to the Smithfield community and the SHS athletes. What are you trying to gain by these remarks? I'm beginning to believe that you aren't even a Packer Fan, just some outside puss filled sore looking to cause a rift on the Packers sideline...well let me tell you Brah - we are a family, this team is very united, regardless of what kind ridiculous posts you can come up with.
WARHILLFAN
09-25-2007, 10:16 AM
GO WARHILL LIONS!!!!!!!!
We are a first year team with no seniors. We are doing the best we can with what we have. Everyone wants to play us for homecoming so they can win their own homecoming game, is that sportsmanship? Play an established team so you can really say that you beat someone, not a first year that so far everyone has beaten. Take a little more pride in your school and not try to beat up on the new school to make yourselves look better!!!!!
GO WARHILL LIONS!!!!!!!
cheermom
09-25-2007, 10:37 AM
It would probably do you some good to look back at this entire post and see that no one has said anything bad about your team. in fact the exact opposite. this all started when it was said that we should all take it easy on your squad because you were young.
WE ALL understand you guys are fresh out the gate and wish you nothing but the best high school football experience ever....
now... relax and we will see you Saturday for what looks to be a great game.
That is how to step up Packer Backer! Because Dyrell is so good and quite unique in his abilities, the local media has latched on to him like a wood tick. Unfortunatley for Dyrell and Smithfield, all of this media coverage has clearly made fans of other teams jealous and tired of hearing about him all the time. Especially when many other very good payers and teams are being ignored. I am sure he and the rest of his team work as hard as any team in the District. However, it is hard to argue with the fact that someone may question his work ethic when they watch a game and he does not play a down on defense or he hangs back with the kicker on kickoffs instead of covering downfield with the rest of his team. My guess is that is what the coach has told him to do, not that he is lazy or thinks he is above the team. However, his detractors will jump on that and exploit it if they can. It is too bad, but the media has made Dyrell a victim of his own success and he better get used to it. Not everybody loves you, and when things go wrong they will be there to point it out just as they kiss your behind when things go well. Hopefully some day he will be getting paid big $$$ to read all this stuff in a real newspaper.
quote=PACKER BACKER;12867]OK Packer Fan, now I have finally had my fill of your C R A P. Everyone that cares to know who I am knows who I am and it's pretty easy to figure it out....I'm wearing the Smithfield ball cap on the sidelines each week taking pictures....everyone at SHS knows that my name is Wayne Blanchard....I support my Packers 100%, let me suggest that you change your name to something with "hater" in it. You're making me ill with those foul, hate filled, jealous rants. Grow up or or better yet STFU! You obviously don't have the balls to approach Fraser or Dyrell or any other kid or coach on this team....come see me Saturday night, I'll gladly introduce you to everyone on the team and coaches, you know, the ones that you have no problem with dragging down on this board, hiding behind some anonymous screen name. You are an embarrassment to the Smithfield community and the SHS athletes. What are you trying to gain by these remarks? I'm beginning to believe that you aren't even a Packer Fan, just some outside puss filled sore looking to cause a rift on the Packers sideline...well let me tell you Brah - we are a family, this team is very united, regardless of what kind ridiculous posts you can come up with.[/quote]
SFFan
09-25-2007, 11:07 AM
WARHILLFAN, I like your enthusiasm. A lot of our fans are too busy bashing their own team to worry about the opposition.
I have no doubt that Warhill will be a huge threat soon enough. I hope this game Saturday will be good for both teams.
PACKER BACKER
09-25-2007, 11:44 AM
Coaches made a decision that a fresh Dyrell on offense was more important to the TEAM than a worn out Dyrell that was on the field for 80+ plays a game. We have a pretty good defensive backfield without Dyrell back there....so why risk an injury on D? As for the kickoff coverage, he's doing exactly what he's been coached to do. Nothing less. And, I'll add this little bit of opinion....IF Dyrell was playing on Defense, don't you think some of these chuckleheads would get on here and question why he was playing both ways.....poor little <<insert your favorite name here>> isn't getting a chance to play because the Coaches want Dyrell to be the entire focal point. Well, excuse me, but where I come from, "You dance with who brung ya!" Grafton had an explosive RB last year - some kid named Thaxton.....ya'll remember? I would of done the exact same thing that Grafton did last year - give it to the best....it's just amazing to me that some people have the audacity to get on here and flog a kid that they don't even know! I'll bet he couldn't pick D-Rob out of a crowd at Patrick Henry Mall....just makes me sick to read some of things that these "fans" post about kids....yes he's built like a man, runs like a man and plays the game like a man.....but he's still a kid (young adult).
OK enough of my rant....I'm done with this (until the next time - lol)!
cheermom
09-25-2007, 12:11 PM
Thank you Packer Backer!!!! You said it all!!
sigh..... done too!
WARHILLFAN
09-25-2007, 03:21 PM
I never said anyone said anything bad. I wanted to set the record straight from the get go. There is no need to "take it easy on us" you should play like you would play any other team. We do not need your pity, but it is funny how everyone in Bay Rivers District wanted to play us for their homecoming game so they could get "an easy win." I have ready everyone's comments and some are trying to be "polite" about "taking it easy" but that is just down right nasty in itself. We DO NOT need anybodys pity!!! In 2 or 3 years we are going to come out and kick everyones butt--so look out!!!!!
GO WARHILL LIONS!!!!!!
cheermom
09-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Sorry Warhill ..... i still hope to see a great game saturday, no matter what grade ya'll are in!!!
GO PACKERS!!! :cheer2:
newkentdad
09-25-2007, 04:20 PM
I never said anyone said anything bad. I wanted to set the record straight from the get go. There is no need to "take it easy on us" you should play like you would play any other team. We do not need your pity, but it is funny how everyone in Bay Rivers District wanted to play us for their homecoming game so they could get "an easy win." I have ready everyone's comments and some are trying to be "polite" about "taking it easy" but that is just down right nasty in itself. We DO NOT need anybodys pity!!! In 2 or 3 years we are going to come out and kick everyones butt--so look out!!
GO WARHILL LIONS!!!!!!
Ok WarhillFan, first off welcome to the board, secound get a grip will ya. Everyone is playing you just like they would any body else. Don't care who it is after you have a game under control you back off, no body purposely runs the score up. Now if you would like Smithfield or Tabb or anybody else to score 100 points on you in a single game just make a sign up that says " 100 or Bust" and carry it to the game. I am sure your football team will appreciate as they will then be the proud owners of that VHSL record. As far as pity, there is no pity in football, just sportmanship and respect for your opponent. Thats what everyone was referring to, having enough of both not to run the score up. As far as homecoming game, PLEASEEEE
Last 3 years for NK..... Tabb, Grafton, Smithfield. Yeah no doubt about it, we go for the cupcakes!!! :welcome:
WARHILLFAN
09-25-2007, 04:26 PM
You can go for whatever you want. But if you read the messages earlier they were talking about "taking it easy on us" by not playing there best players. That sounds like pity to me. Everyone on this board needs to grow up!!! How old are we all??? You can ask anbody, everyone wanted to play Warhill for homecoming because they thought it was an "easy" win. So we are a new team. If you want to run the score up, run it up but "dont take it easy on us." In a couple of years we are are going to kick everyones butt!!!! Look out for the LIONS!!!!
GO WARHILL LIONS!!!!!
AnotherGraftonDad
09-25-2007, 08:50 PM
You can go for whatever you want. But if you read the messages earlier they were talking about "taking it easy on us" by not playing there best players. That sounds like pity to me. Everyone on this board needs to grow up!!! How old are we all??? You can ask anbody, everyone wanted to play Warhill for homecoming because they thought it was an "easy" win. So we are a new team. If you want to run the score up, run it up but "dont take it easy on us." In a couple of years we are are going to kick everyones butt!!!! Look out for the LIONS!!!!
GO WARHILL LIONS!!!!!
Hey Warhillfan, I agree with the New Kent post. I asked the question about D. Roberts because regardless of any thoughts of pity, it might make sense to rest him for part of the game. You are reading way, way too much into this. Also, I don't know where you get this idea that the coaches huddle in some smoke-filled room and argue over who gets to play Warhill for homecoming. I seriously doubt that's the case. I know Grafton has played some teams on their homecoming the past couple years which generally didn't lead to a good result for that team. This year we have the Rams coming to our stadium to try to ruin the night. We're coming to your stadium on 26 October - is that your homecoming?
Good luck with the rest of the season and keep positive. Look at what Tabb has done in 3 short years!
berkleyboy
09-25-2007, 09:06 PM
warhill has a good program in progress but the defense still need some work to be able to stop dyrell roberts.warhill defense havent been wraping up and you no u need that to wrap up dyrell roberts the soon 2 become virginia tech star. so give it some time for warhill young squad to develop and they will be ok. also shawn the quarter back of warhill only a freshman is starting to get some connection with his receivers so they are going to start putting up points. i pick warhill 56-21
newkentdad
09-25-2007, 09:25 PM
Hey Warhillfan, I agree with the New Kent post. I asked the question about D. Roberts because regardless of any thoughts of pity, it might make sense to rest him for part of the game. You are reading way, way too much into this. Also, I don't know where you get this idea that the coaches huddle in some smoke-filled room and argue over who gets to play Warhill for homecoming. I seriously doubt that's the case. I know Grafton has played some teams on their homecoming the past couple years which generally didn't lead to a good result for that team. This year we have the Rams coming to our stadium to try to ruin the night. We're coming to your stadium on 26 October - is that your homecoming?
Good luck with the rest of the season and keep positive. Look at what Tabb has done in 3 short years!
A.G.D., no smokey rooms but after an extensive 4 hour investigation I have learned that his Royal Highness, The Grand Master of the BRD had all coaches compete in an Indian Leg wrestling competition to see who would get Warhill for homecoming. It was close but in the finals Bruton won the right. Jamestown protested claiming they used an illegal move but the decision was upheld. Bruton gets em in the Pit Oct 19th....
PACKER BACKER
09-25-2007, 09:25 PM
warhill has a good program in progress but the defense still need some work to be able to stop dyrell roberts.warhill defense havent been wraping up and you no u need that to wrap up dyrell roberts the soon 2 become virginia tech star. so give it some time for warhill young squad to develop and they will be ok. also shawn the quarter back of warhill only a freshman is starting to get some connection with his receivers so they are going to start putting up points. i pick warhill 56-21
Son - I think you have received one too many concussions in your short high school career, might be time to find something else to do...LOL!
PACKER BACKER
09-25-2007, 09:28 PM
A.G.D., no smokey rooms but after an extensive 4 hour investigation I have learned that his Royal Highness, The Grand Master of the BRD had all coaches compete in an Indian Leg wrestling competition to see who would get Warhill for homecoming. It was close but in the finals Bruton won the right. Jamestown protested claiming they used an illegal move but the decision was upheld. Bruton gets em in the Pit Oct 19th....
NKD - am I becoming an inspiration to you? That looked like some silliness that I would come up with - great post - got a good chuckle from that one!
newkentdad
09-25-2007, 09:31 PM
NKD - am I becoming an inspiration to you? That looked like some silliness that I would come up with - great post - got a good chuckle from that one!
Thanks, that means alot coming from the master!!!!! LOL
newkentdad
09-25-2007, 10:07 PM
And people wonder how rumors get started! I really would like to know who said our boys play dirty? Our boys play hard...NOT dirty!
Warhill Mom, not sure what that is all about but I said earlier and hope you saw it that as far as Nk was concerned everyone that I had talked to on the team had nothing but good things to say. It was nice to see both sides shake hands and tap helmets as time was expiring, don't see it much anymore. My son was actually disapointed not to be on the field as the game ended ( hurt his knee) he really wanted to say something to the Defensive Tackle he had been blocking against all night. From were I sat, when it was over, looked like two teams that had respect for each other.
Hog Wild
09-26-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't agree with everything that Packer Fan said, but I do agree that (at no fault of Roberts) the Smithfield coaching staff could use some of the other players on the team and stop depending on Roberts so much. I think that there is a lot of talent on the team that doesn't get a chance to shine because the offense is so focused on Roberts. And, they really aren't doing Roberts any favors either by putting him in the backfield by himself and having him run around and try to make something happen. Let Privitte QB, let Roberts be moved around, WR, RB, occasional QB. I think that it will be beneficial to everyone involved and will lead to more experience for the guys coming back next season. Also, it will help rest Roberts some. Because towards the end of the Tabb game he was dragging a little, but that was because he was having to run direct snap after direct snap. He is taking a beating back there... The team also needs to work on discpline, I won't direct it towards one player, because at this level it isn't warrented and because I think this is a team problem. It is evidenced by the disparity in penalities between us and Tabb last week, and not just penalities, but personal fouls. Personal fouls are 15 yards and a first down a pop. They kill drives on offense and sustain drives against the defense and I promise you that they cost us more than 100 yards one way or the other last week. This isn't beating up on my team or being unsupportive, it is constructive criticism and intelligent talk about football.
cheermom
09-26-2007, 12:39 PM
Does anyone have directions from Smithfield to Warhill? i had a copy from the school but i lost it last time in the rain!!! thank you a million to whoever can help!
BRD Sports Fan
09-26-2007, 12:59 PM
James City County Stadium
Directions From 64 East & West:Take the Lightfoot Exit 234A – 199 East. Follow 199 East to the Richmond Rd Route 60 Exit. Take left at light onto Route 60. Take left at light onto Centerville Road. Take left at next light onto Opportunity Way. School will be on your left. Continue past Warhill High School and the stadium will be on your left.
cheermom
09-26-2007, 01:32 PM
thank You!!!!!!!
Man o man,
How was I not in on this thread earlier?
Well, I was in earlier, but my insightful analysis was ignored. (That's OK, I can take it.) But then, ya'll started really tearing it up!
WarhillFan, I love your attitude- Growing pains are what they are, but I remember a new team that came into York County not long ago and won a Region I championship eventually. That same team is in serious contention for a District, and Regional (Dare I say State) championship now.
And Packer Backer (and anyone whose glasses aren't fogged up by puffing on their own inflated egos) knows that Grafton was the best team in the District at the end of the year last year. Heck, they're 11-1 over the last 12 games.
You will eventually get yours. Not this weekend, but eventually.
On to the more important points- I have become a Smithfield admirer over the last few years. When Fraser first got there, they were terrible. Out of control TERRIBLE. Now, they are a quality football program with active fans and exceptional kids and supportive parents that most teams could only dream of.
Congrats to you guys for sticking up for your sons and their friends.
Dyrell is most likely the safety on Kickoffs, genius.
It doesn't take Knute Rockne to figure that one out.
Way to call 'em out Wayne!
Packer Smithfield
09-26-2007, 05:47 PM
Hog wild you are right and we know what the problem is but anyway Dyrell shouldn't be talk about for whats going on the kid is doing his thing and kept it up also Defense is the problem along with the penalities and coach needs to change some of his thinking to max out what sucess his team can have. 70 points in a game and a half means some isn't right and it isn't the defensive coach fault.
Warhill Mom
09-27-2007, 08:27 AM
Warhill Mom, not sure what that is all about but I said earlier and hope you saw it that as far as Nk was concerned everyone that I had talked to on the team had nothing but good things to say. It was nice to see both sides shake hands and tap helmets as time was expiring, don't see it much anymore. My son was actually disapointed not to be on the field as the game ended ( hurt his knee) he really wanted to say something to the Defensive Tackle he had been blocking against all night. From were I sat, when it was over, looked like two teams that had respect for each other.
Newkent Dad, thank you, I am happy hear the opposing teams point of view and you are right you don't see that too much any more. My comment was directed at someone who said that Smithfield needed to watch out because our boys played dirty.
Newkent Dad, thank you, I am happy hear the opposing teams point of view and you are right you don't see that too much any more. My comment was directed at someone who said that Smithfield needed to watch out because our boys played dirty.
I wrote that because that is what I was told by 2 coaches of of one of Warhills opponents earlier in the season. It was only a couple of kids and I am sure the coach does not approve of that behavior, but there was a lot of personal fouls and face mask grabbing going on at the end of one of their games. However, according to newkentdad it appears the issue has been resolved and the Lions are playing better and harder as opposed to dirty. It was probably just pat of the new team growing pains they will go through this year. If you read my entire original post you will see that I also menioned they have some athletes over there and are not as bad as what people might think. Anyway, glad to see they are back on the right track.
PACKER BACKER
09-27-2007, 12:23 PM
And Packer Backer (and anyone whose glasses aren't fogged up by puffing on their own inflated egos) knows that Grafton was the best team in the District at the end of the year last year. Heck, they're 11-1 over the last 12 games.
Dyrell is most likely the safety on Kickoffs, genius.
It doesn't take Knute Rockne to figure that one out.
Way to call 'em out Wayne!
Agreed - the best D4 team in the state at week 10 had to stay home last year - Clippers.
Safety on kickoffs - I wanted him to try to figure that out - goes along with all of these high school football experts/wanna be coaches. Knute would be proud of you Ddw.
I don't like call 'em out - I NEVER should have to do that - but I'll do it for these kids......until someone shuts me up....doubt that's gonna happen.
Haven't you heard the crickets chirpping and seen the tumble weed rolling along...the naming cooled down. Why do some of ya'll feel like it's necessary to get my blood pressure all worked up like that? Geez - anyways, I'm gonna keep it positive and I'm gonna keep it real. And I don't care what team the kid plays for...when I see something that I like, I'm going to post it.
cheermom
09-27-2007, 12:51 PM
You said it!!! At the end of the day they are still young men who need to enjoy life, go to school dances, have a date or two and smile once in a while. there is enough cr*p for them in the future!!!
KEEP IT UP WAYNE!!!!
Agreed - the best D4 team in the state at week 10 had to stay home last year - Clippers.
Safety on kickoffs - I wanted him to try to figure that out - goes along with all of these high school football experts/wanna be coaches. Knute would be proud of you Ddw.
I don't like call 'em out - I NEVER should have to do that - but I'll do it for these kids......until someone shuts me up....doubt that's gonna happen.
Haven't you heard the crickets chirpping and seen the tumble weed rolling along...the naming cooled down. Why do some of ya'll feel like it's necessary to get my blood pressure all worked up like that? Geez - anyways, I'm gonna keep it positive and I'm gonna keep it real. And I don't care what team the kid plays for...when I see something that I like, I'm going to post it.
Can't say as I agree with you on the safety on kickoffs deal. Just ignored it the first time you wrote it. I guess making a tackle at the 50 is better than making one at the 25? Wonder why every team doesn't play a safety on kickoffs? Guess since we disagree I must be a wanna be coach now.
Can't say as I agree with you on the safety on kickoffs deal. Just ignored it the first time you wrote it. I guess making a tackle at the 50 is better than making one at the 25? Wonder why every team doesn't play a safety on kickoffs? Guess since we disagree I must be a wanna be coach now.
Come on man. Every team DOES have a safety on the kickoff.
The reason they have it is because making a tackle at the 50 is better than not making a tackle at all.
Sometimes, the safety happens to be the kicker. However, sometimes (when the kicker is not fast or a good tackler) it happens to be the best athlete or tackler on the team.
Any Smithfield fan, coach, player, or parent, will probably feel a lot better hearing, "He's got one man to beat...." if that one man is Dyrell Roberts.
You don't have to be a coach to disagree, but your arguments should have a modicum of common sense.
PACKER BACKER
09-27-2007, 02:27 PM
Can't say as I agree with you on the safety on kickoffs deal. Just ignored it the first time you wrote it. I guess making a tackle at the 50 is better than making one at the 25? Wonder why every team doesn't play a safety on kickoffs? Guess since we disagree I must be a wanna be coach now.
DONC,
Actually that comment wasn't directed at you....you made mention of the fact that if the coaches have directed to do that....yada, yada - and others trying to exploit that.....you had it partially correct. Our kicker doesn't hang back, he's scooting on downfield. As a matter of fact I have a really good shot of Alan Domack getting an assist on a tackle at the 25 yard line against Lafayette - that was before Alan got hurt playing soccer with his club team a couple of weeks ago. Our new kicker is is doing the same thing, getting downfield....the wanna be coaches know who they are....it's not you.
newkentdad
09-27-2007, 02:50 PM
**** PB, your mellow today! You back on the meds? LOL Just Kiddin, couldn't resist.
PACKER BACKER
09-27-2007, 03:12 PM
**** PB, your mellow today! You back on the meds? LOL Just Kiddin, couldn't resist.
Look man - don't make me come looking for ya - my parents still live in King William - LMAO! Just Joking - you're getting GOOOOOOOOD!!!
FBFan
09-27-2007, 07:46 PM
There really isn't much to talk about here, so why all the talk? Warhill will build a team over the next couple years that is going to be hard to stop. Heck, after what they are going to go through this year, maybe we'll all be Warhill fans in two years. You guys keep up the hard work!
Come on man. Every team DOES have a safety on the kickoff.
The reason they have it is because making a tackle at the 50 is better than not making a tackle at all.
Sometimes, the safety happens to be the kicker. However, sometimes (when the kicker is not fast or a good tackler) it happens to be the best athlete or tackler on the team.
Any Smithfield fan, coach, player, or parent, will probably feel a lot better hearing, "He's got one man to beat...." if that one man is Dyrell Roberts.
You don't have to be a coach to disagree, but your arguments should have a modicum of common sense.
If you want to condsider the kicker a safety,then fine. Most teams do not have 2 safeties back. The fans would probably feel better knowing that the returner had to beat Dyrell as he closed in on them at the 25, not the 50. Anyway, I digress, the original point was that the player is back there because his coach wants him there, not because he has an attitude problem. Whether he runs downfield or not doesn't matter, the coach puts him where he thinks he can help the team the most. In this case, it is back as a safety.
DONC,
Actually that comment wasn't directed at you....you made mention of the fact that if the coaches have directed to do that....yada, yada - and others trying to exploit that.....you had it partially correct. Our kicker doesn't hang back, he's scooting on downfield. As a matter of fact I have a really good shot of Alan Domack getting an assist on a tackle at the 25 yard line against Lafayette - that was before Alan got hurt playing soccer with his club team a couple of weeks ago. Our new kicker is is doing the same thing, getting downfield....the wanna be coaches know who they are....it's not you.
Having the luxury of a kicker who can cover downfield can not be underestimated. This is a prfect example as it allows your most athletic player to contain the threat of a long return. The cruel irony is that a kicker who gets downfield and makes tackles on special teams gets injured playng soccer! Here's to hoping he gets back on the gridiron soon.
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