View Full Version : Hampton City School Core Class Rule
01-30-2008, 11:12 AM
Can someone please shed some light on why Hampton City Schools has a Academic Rule in place stating that if you fail any core class no matter if its a regular class or an AP class that you can no longer participate in any sport for the entire semster. Now let me explain what this means; this means if you are a 4.0 student taking all AP classes and you fail one core class then you cannot continue playing your sport for the rest of the semster. But if you fail a class that is an elective then you can still participate in a sport. This has to be the craziest rule ever invented by a School System. In Newport News if you fail a core class you can still participate in your sport why is this because the kids still have time to get their grade up enough to pass the class. The government city, state, and federal are always yelling its about the kids but how can this rule be out the kids. In Isle Wright County they enforced the 2.0 gpa rule and they started to lose alot of kids participating in sports. So they put in place a system to help the kids which simply stated this: if an athlete fails a class then he/she must go and get help from a tudor, if an athlete misses a meeting with his/her tudor once then he/she will miss one athletic competition, if an athlete misses a 2nd meeting with his/her tudor they must sit out 3 athletic competitions and if an athlete misses his/her tudor a third time then he/she will be put off the team. This was put in place to give the athletes help and make them responsible for their actions if they do not take this help seriously. So please someone put the word out to Hampton City Schools to remove their policy of fail one core class/no play policy. Simply ask yourself this question why would you penalize a kid especially the kids you are taking higher level courses such as AP Calcus or Physics. I guess what the city is saying is that they are penalizing kids for trying to expand their learning.
01-30-2008, 03:50 PM
The issues stated probably won't be addressed until a kid with a 4.0 GPA in honors classes actually fails a core class and becomes ineligible for sports. The spirit behind the rule is correct. If a kid is in danger of failing a core class, which equates to not graduating on time, then something should be done. Admittedly, Hampton could alter their grade scale (68 to pass, as opposed to 60-64 in other districts) to match the other school systems to level the field a bit. But athletics should never supersede the importance of passing ones classes.
01-30-2008, 04:37 PM
Hampton98, this is always a tricky subject so I'd like to help. Isle of Wight County has two High Schools, Smithfield High School (AA) and Windsor High School (A). The County as a whole has always had the 2.0 gpa policy to participate in sports. Now about two years ago Windsor High School proposed using a lower gpa (I believe it's 1.5) system and providing tutoring when necessary. It was accepted by the School Board, however, Smithfield High School remained with the 2.0 gpa system. Smithfield High School has always used the 2.0 gpa system. I agree with the 2.0 gpa system as I beleive participating in sports is a privilage and not a guarantee. Participating in sports takes a great deal of time and if a student if having problems with academics then they should take the time and correct the problems before returning to sports. As for the issue with the advanced classes I agree that I would have to see that situation in real life, all advanced classes with one F? Man, having any student taking all advanced classes is a huge burden, much more so for an athlete! It seems like the purpose of the rule, as the other reply stated is to keep the student on track to graduate.
01-30-2008, 04:44 PM
There have already been kids with high gpa's who have suffered from the effects of this rule. Of course no one is saying that"athletics should never supersede the importance of passing ones classes" but if this child is a collegiate bound athlete they will have to learn how to deal with this issue if they are on scholarship thier coach will not kick them off the team, what the coach will do is make the athlete attend a mandatory study hall and have the option of getting a tudor. This rule is a cripling rule and is not a rule that is trying to help kids out. If administrators are always trying to do whats best for the kids then they should offer help when a kid is struggling not tell the child to give up. At the end of the day a kid who has a high gpa or low gpa both should want to graduate period, having the child stop playing a sport is not going to make them do their work/or graduate if that is not in the kids mind set. But if the schools have put people in place to help student-athletes out throught their high school careers then most likely they will have enough help and good influence to graduate and make to the next level of life.
01-30-2008, 04:52 PM
To ProudPackerDad (http://hrvarsity.com/forums/member.php?u=38) http://hrvarsity.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif:
I agree with a 2.0 grade point avg rule because most students should be able to achieve this but if student athletes are taking higher level couses and fail one then it should be taken in consideration. Everyone wants to say that kids are going to college after high school but this is not the case so what you are saying is that you are going to penalize a kid who doesnt want to go to college and continue his/her academics or athletic career. Know one should make that decision but the student and it is not fair to them who this rule affects the most.(regaurdless how i feel about the rule or not). Rules do not keep people who have goals and ambitions on track the persons Will and Desire do.
01-30-2008, 09:29 PM
Hampton 98..you hit the nail right on the head when you said "if the high schools put people in place.." If the situation is identified early through weekly signed grade sheets or another method, then it never becomes an issue of an athlete becoming ineligible because the problem is solved (study hall instead of practice) before it hinders the eligibility of the athlete. Generally, the kid with good grades is sensible enough to know he/she is failing a class before the official marks come out. If not, the teacher can put it in writing on a weekly basis for the coach.
Basically, I do agree with your main idea. I don't want to see a good kid suffer over one bad grade either. It is a shame if the next great American novelist fails science and becomes ineligible for sports..and surely it could happen with the present system in Hampton.
However, I also believe that it's up to the parents and the coach (IN THAT ORDER) to identify the potential problem before it hurts the athlete.
01-31-2008, 07:41 AM
Also I wanted to add this, if the 2.0 grade point average is such a big thing for school systems then why do they not hold all student to have at least a 2.0 grade point average to graduate. Futhermore all kids do not have the same home support so of course a coach can try to instill certain things in to his/her athletes but it is so much harder to do when you do not have the parents who care about whether or not their child has good or bad grades, graduates or doesnt graduate. Those are things that at least two Hampton City Schools deal with.
01-31-2008, 04:29 PM
This really goes more to Hampton98's last post. He makes some very interesting points. I have seen grade requirements work both ways. One kid gets inspired and gets thier grades up with support from the family and another with far less support gets so frustrated that they cannot meet eligibilty requirements they just quit school. Like it or not, for some kids, sports is the motivating factor. Take it away and there is little reason to be there.
Tough question and I dont have a clue what the right answer is but when you see a 16 year old kid leave school, with his parents permission, just because he was not eligible under a certain gpa rule... I dont know... think I would have rather see him participate and at least have a chance to graduate.
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