Peninsula All District PD Nominees

[softball911]

The season is half way over.If the coaches were to choose a all district team at the half way mark who do you think they would name? For player of the year? Coach of the year?

[softball93]

Be carefull here there is a lot of ball yet to play and there will still be some surprises.

[softball4girls]

Be carefull here there is a lot of ball yet to play and there will still be some surprises.

It's not how you start, but how well you finish. The second half will bring the pressure.

[softball93]

It's not how you start, but how well you finish. The second half will bring the pressure.

I agree 100%.

[YC Sports Look]

softball911
What are the winning numbers for the lottery this weekend,



The season is half way over.If the coaches were to choose a all district team at the half way mark who do you think they would name? For player of the year? Coach of the year?

[sbfan9]

softball911
What are the winning numbers for the lottery this weekend,

Hey YC, if you get the numbers, please share them with me. Thanks.

[softballfan9]

Alright, we all know it's early to try and pick All District players. But, let's not jump down anyones throats over curiousity.


:focus:

[sbfan9]

Alright, we all know it's early to try and pick All District players. But, let's not jump down anyones throats over curiousity.


:focus:

Sorry, Softballfan9. Just having fun. But it really would be nice having those numbers.

[softball93]

Sorry, Softballfan9. Just having fun. But it really would be nice having those numbers.

Look if he gives you those numbers I want a "peace" of that action.

[sbfan9]

Look if he gives you those numbers I want a "peace" of that action.

You got it. I'll meet you at the local 7-11 after the game and we'll play the numbers.

[sbfan9]

Forget about this thread for now.Not a good time. We can wait.

Sorry if I offended anyone with my comments. I was really poking fun at YC for what I thought was an insensitive remark towards softball911.

[sportsfan8]

When girls are chosen for All District I hope the ones chosen are the ones who not only have played good, but showed good sportsmanship also. This should be taken in consideration when choosing from Woodsides team. Any girl who refused to shake hands with another team is not someone who should be considered for All District, regardless of how good they are.

[League of Their Own]

When girls are chosen for All District I hope the ones chosen are the ones who not only have played good, but showed good sportsmanship also. This should be taken in consideration when choosing from Woodsides team. Any girl who refused to shake hands with another team is not someone who should be considered for All District, regardless of how good they are.

You make a great point:clap2:

[softball93]

We already got one thread closed over this. Lets leave that out.

[sportsfan8]

We already got one thread closed over this. Lets leave that out.


First of all In ever mentioned any names. I don't even know who the girl or girls were that did this. This is nothing wrong with voicing opinions about nominees. Thats what this forum is for.

[YC Sports Look]

How about the criteria for being selected for all district be posted and then lets worry about who the selects are. If the general public knows what the criteria to be all district is then the coaches involved can be held to a higher standard by following the criteria. I am sure sportsmanship is a weighted factor however I would venture to say production stats are weighted more. Oh i forgot when the dads keep the books the stats are skewed.. So who out there that is an actual no kidding authority on being selected all district has the b$#@s to post the criteria and has the b#$%^s to adhere to the criteria.

Hope this isnt to sensitive for some of you I wont mention any names

[sportsfan8]

How about the criteria for being selected for all district be posted and then lets worry about who the selects are. If the general public knows what the criteria to be all district is then the coaches involved can be held to a higher standard by following the criteria. I am sure sportsmanship is a weighted factor however I would venture to say production stats are weighted more. Oh i forgot when the dads keep the books the stats are skewed.. So who out there that is an actual no kidding authority on being selected all district has the b$#@s to post the criteria and has the b#$%^s to adhere to the criteria.

Hope this isnt to sensitive for some of you I wont mention any names


I never said I knew what the criteria was. I only said I hope some things are factored in when considering who is selected. I don't care how good a player is, if they have such a bad attitude that they can't even shake the hands of the opposing team after a game, then they definitely should NOT qualify for an All District player. The ones chosen are respresenting the PD. What I said has nothing to do with skewed books...thats a personal issue you have, not me

[CoachBell]

Actually it would be nice to have criteria without regards to the class of the player (Freshman, Sophmore, Junior or Senior) base it on the criteria not the class for the player.

Yes we understand that sometimes coaches or parents can cook the books but honestly that would be for them to deal with and be judged both personally and spiritually. Scoring the game is very relative to the experience one has with the game. Maybe their daughter only played rec ball or for a weaker travel program were expectations weren't high and they score it softer than someone involved with the sport more extensively would score it, again it is relative and honestly when it is show time the proof will be in the pudding based on their performance.

Some examples for scoring?? A ball hit straight to a player, now the ball was hit HARD but straight to a player and it comes off the top of her glove well there are some that may say wow that was hard hit that should go down as a hit, I would say NO way the expectation is that at this level they should be held to a higher standard of play in respect to their position so that would be an ERROR. Then there are some intances where there is an obvious interference that occurred with the base runner and the fielder that didn't allow the fielder to make a routine play but the umpire doesn't call it as interference! One questions whether or not it should be a Fielders choice based on the should have-could have or hit or error on Umpire. Well honestly since there isn't an error column for the umps you have to score it a HIT regardless if you agree with the call by Blue. And the should have could have situation is a mystery because players do make errors.

What I am trying to say is... whether the books are cooked or not it would have to be that individual who has to live with themselves and the pressures that would come with it when others see that particular player playing. I would rather see more critical scoring than that of a relaxed score keeper. Keeping it close to reality allows coaches to determine their practice plans and direction for their respective team.

Now off the soap box and on to criteria:
For Pitchers
1) - ERA
2) - Strikeouts
3) - fewest number of walks
4) Fewest Fielding Errors (YES Pitchers get errors they are a fielder once they release the ball their job is to defend the circle)
5) win/lose record
(This last because the pitcher can't control whether or not they have a team that can hit and field the ball- this is beyond their control unless they face 21 batters and sit down 21 batters themselves which is extremely RARE)

For Fielders (Infield or Outfield)-
1) Fielding percentage based on the number of opportunities
2) Offensively their On Base Percentage (OBP)
4) Offensively their Batting Average (AVG)
5) Their RBIs or Slugging percentage (SLG)


For Catchers
1st - Their Stolen Base Attempts vs the Caught Stealing
2nd - Their fielding percentage if applicable
3rd - Offensively OBP, SLG, and AVG
4th - RBIs

Just a thought on a Start - not sure if the selection actually goes this way??? Those of you who have been around longer to Varsity programs than myself can probably get a better opinion. My guess is that it always goes to upper classman whether their numbers are better than under classman or not???

All of this is just food for thought? What do ya think?

[WoHs softball Pop]

Coach Bell I have a quick question. How would you score the follwing example as to number of earned runs.
1st batter walk
2nd batter walk
3rd batter bunt to pitcher pitcher has throwing error to third all runners safe
4th batter S/O
5th batter S/O
6th batter Stand up double scoring 3 runs score

I scored 2 earned runs.........what say you.........thanks

[sbfan9]

Coach Bell I have a quick question. How would you score the follwing example as to number of earned runs.
1st batter walk
2nd batter walk
3rd batter bunt to pitcher pitcher has throwing error to third all runners safe
4th batter S/O
5th batter S/O
6th batter Stand up double scoring 3 runs score

I scored 2 earned runs.........what say you.........thanks

0 earned runs. Rescore the inning as if there were no errors and only count runs that would have scored before there were three outs. In your situation, out number 1 should have been at third. Outs 2 and 3 were strikeouts and should have ended the inning. Those 3 outs would have come before the 6th batter hit for a double scoring 2 runs. Therefore, if no errors had occurred, there would have been 3 outs before the 6th batter came to bat. Does that make sense to anyone or did I just muddle it up.

[CoachBell]

That sounds good but actually I would have to put that on the pitcher and had given her two (2) earned runs because the players that were walked belong to the pitcher however the Runner from 3rd wouldn't count as earned because of the error wouldn't count. The girl that got a double gets credit for the 2 bagger and 2 RBI's. It is all how you look at it, since my daughter is a pitcher, I like SBFan9 approach to it, But I would have to say those walks belonged to her and they would be earned and the Pitcher gave up the double which she controlled. Runs scoring outside the pitchers control are unearned. NOW having said that, if there would have been an error following those walks which resulted in them scoring then they would be unearned.
Example if
1 walked
2 walked
3 walked
batter 4 hits the ball an Error committed Run scored from third then that is an UNEARNED RUN
Now you still have Batter 2 and 3 now at third and second but another error was committed that allowed them to score then those would be UNEARNED.

Here is a different example:
Batter 1 BB
Batter 2 single
Batter 3 hits ball player (at any position) commits an error and Batter 1 scored then that is UNEARNED.
Now Batter 2 and Batter 3 on base safely at 1st and 3rd respectively. Next batter
Batter 4 KO
Batter 5 hits to 5-3 OUT but holds the runner
Batter 6 Comes up with Runner on 1st and 3rd another error committed and scores runner from 3rd this is UNEARNED

Though the pitcher was responsible for them reaching safely the defense allowed them to score which is beyond the pitchers control therefore UNEARNED RUN?

That's my take on it - but I am not sure if there is a rule book for keeping the score book, I think it is really relative to how you interrupt what you see and understand to be the truth at that time.

[sbfan9]

I got my info from an old copy of an ASA scorers manual. There is a section in the back called "Points of Emphasis." Although I haven't read it in a long while, I seem to remember unearned runs as I described it in my eariler post. On the other hand, there is also something in there about earned runs being anything that can be directly attrubuted to the pitcher. In the case above, it was the pitcher who had the throwing error so you could make the case that 2 runs were earned. I'm not sure that was the intent of the "POE.' I'll try to find the scorers manual and give you the exact wording.

[PDSBFan]

Coach Bell I have a quick question. How would you score the follwing example as to number of earned runs.
1st batter walk
2nd batter walk
3rd batter bunt to pitcher pitcher has throwing error to third all runners safe
4th batter S/O
5th batter S/O
6th batter Stand up double scoring 3 runs score

I scored 2 earned runs.........what say you.........thanks

I would say that all three are unearned. Batter 3 should have caused out #1 and the two SO's should have ended the inning. I would score anything after that as unearned.

[CoachBell]

I got my info from an old copy of an ASA scorers manual. There is a section in the back called "Points of Emphasis." Although I haven't read it for in a long while, I seem to remember unearned runs as I described it in my eariler post. On the other hand, there is also something in there about earned runs being anything that can be directly attrubuted to the pitcher. In the case above, it was the pitcher who had the throwing error so you could make the case that 2 runs were earned. I'm not sure that was the intent of the "POE.' I'll try to find the scorers manual and give you the exact wording.

Very good points everyone has good points on this. I have been cheating my daughter for many years :(
If you know her don't tell her that her ERA is actually lower than dad gave her credit for :D
I have a tendency to score strict and place alot of responsibility on the pitcher as I think it should in most cases.

[WoHs softball Pop]

I did some fact checking on line and I was wrong. I once read that you just pulled the error out as if it didnt exist. But in reading more detailed instruction the scorer is supposed to re-construct the inning as if the error had created an out (if applicable) and rescore the inning from there. So in my example the error would be scored an out and the 3rd out would come before the double is hit.

Thanks for all of your input and help. This is the way this forum is supposed to work

[CoachBell]

I did some fact checking on line and I was wrong. I once read that you just pulled the error out as if it didnt exist. But in reading more detailed instruction the scorer is supposed to re-construct the inning as if the error had created an out (if applicable) and rescore the inning from there. So in my example the error would be scored an out and the 3rd out would come before the double is hit.

Thanks for all of your input and help. This is the way this forum is supposed to work

So SBFan9 was correct? There would be 0 earned runs?

[Deerpark1]

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[WOHS Softball Fan]

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[twiceasnice757]

Hands down Travonna Byrd, Stephanie Coates, and I guess overrated Woodside pitcher is 1st team all district pitchers possibly all regional for Byrd 15 to 16 strikes out a game and your team still looses you have to honor her with somthing.

You're a funny individual Deerpark. You have a sophmore who is putting up better numbers than two seniors and she's the one who is overrated, WOW. I think i've heard it all. I'm not going to go out there and say she's better than those two, but you CAN'T use the term overrated when speaking on her. She's only a sophmore, that's all that needs to be said.

[allsportsfan]

there will be some surprises no doubt :nod::nod:

[pop-tarts]

Isn't there always suprises when it comes down to all district. It's all political and it's not how good you are it's who you know! half the time the girls that get the all district title, aren't the one's who deserve it! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Deerpark1]

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[softball911]

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[underdog562]

:focus:this forum's topic is All District PD Nominess:confused: Warwick's are Atkins, Byrd, Dawson, Goztomski, King & Ward.

[twiceasnice757]

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[twiceasnice757]

lol yea your right Woodside softball is known for blowing up pitchers who really dont step up to the plate for big games dont you remember the Gloucester game huh huh??? she gave it up she lost!!!! hey maybe she will be the next Mikki Rodriguez and be blowned up like she was and went to college and now you hear Mikki who??? hey SO WOW!!!!! YOU CANT GO Division 1 beating teams your suppose to beat Hate to see what regionals look like O yeaa if yall make it first...

In fact, no i'm not going to keep you up to date. My interactions with you are done, you lost all credibility when you said we blow the big games. I believe we beat a team that the Dukes were unable to, I guess that wasn't a big game. And you can't go D1 when you only beat the teams you're supposed to beat, Coates and Byrd dominate the pd then lose in the 1st round of regional play every year. Your comments are baseless.

[brightlights]

I believe we beat a team that the Dukes were unable to, I guess that wasn't a big game. And you can't go D1 when you only beat the teams you're supposed to beat, Coates and Byrd dominate the pd then lose in the 1st round of regional play every year. Your comments are baseless.

Twiceasnice757, you either don't read the newspaper or are Byrd and Coates competitors/haters because they both had impressive victories in Regional play last year, High amount of strike outs and a no hitter/one hitter. I'm sure both of these pitchers are aware of why/how you go to a D1 University. You beat Warwick, Warwick beat Gloucester and Gloucester beat you....that was then and this is now. Let's see what happens next round. And even if your statement was true about them going to Regionals and loosing in the 1st round; at least they make it Regionals. You're running out of time aren't you. Coates and Byrd went to regionals as freshman.
However I must agree with you on Deerpark1 comments becaues they are overboard. Most people will probably believe it's Byrd or even a friend of Byrd, but I think it's someone trying to get her enemies and talked about by people like you. It won't be the first time.

[Deerpark1]

Uhm excuse me when was the last time yall went to regionals because if the PD is so bad Woodside lost 1st round in the district tournament last year really says a lot about yall... and second of yall in the newspaper it was said that Tra Byrd was hit in the ribs way to be having cheap shots to win a game...

[pop-tarts]

In fact, no i'm not going to keep you up to date. My interactions with you are done, you lost all credibility when you said we blow the big games. I believe we beat a team that the Dukes were unable to, I guess that wasn't a big game. And you can't go D1 when you only beat the teams you're supposed to beat, Coates and Byrd dominate the pd then lose in the 1st round of regional play every year. Your comments are baseless.

woah! twiceasnice, Warwick and Gloucester are obvivously the best two teams to go over to regional play since they beat out all the other competitors! also for your information, Coates pitched a no-hitter first round, and Byrd pitched and 1-hitter and then second round Gloucester lost 1-0 due to a trick, and Warwick lost 2-0 due to a throwing error, NOT TO MENTION THAT KELLAM THE TEAM WARWICK LOST TO WAS STATE CHAMPIONS! so I'm pretty proud of the way those teams represented the PD, and I think a lot of other people are too. Way to go DUKES & RAIDERS :cheer2:

[sportsfan8]

woah! twiceasnice, Warwick and Gloucester are obvivously the best two teams to go over to regional play since they beat out all the other competitors! also for your information, Coates pitched a no-hitter first round, and Byrd pitched and 1-hitter and then second round Gloucester lost 1-0 due to a trick, and Warwick lost 2-0 due to a throwing error, NOT TO MENTION THAT KELLAM THE TEAM WARWICK LOST TO WAS STATE CHAMPIONS! so I'm pretty proud of the way those teams represented the PD, and I think a lot of other people are too. Way to go DUKES & RAIDERS :cheer2:

If I am not mistaken, I believe the year before in 2006, it was Menchville and Gloucester who went to Regionals.

[sportsfan8]

lol yea your right Woodside softball is known for blowing up pitchers who really dont step up to the plate for big games dont you remember the Gloucester game huh huh??? she gave it up she lost!!!! hey maybe she will be the next Mikki Rodriguez and be blowned up like she was and went to college and now you hear Mikki who??? hey SO WOW!!!!! YOU CANT GO Division 1 beating teams your suppose to beat Hate to see what regionals look like O yeaa if yall make it first...

Obviously you don't follow college ball because I still hear Mikki's name all the time. She is a great player and will always be one of the top players to come out of the PD.

[softball4girls]

If I am not mistaken, I believe the year before in 2006, it was Menchville and Gloucester who went to Regionals.

Dude your not mistaken, but I think your missing the point. She said they represented the PD well. Menchville did go, but they weren't able to compete. It was kind of embarrassing.:(

[sportsfan8]

Well Deepark1 I am glad you think the WOHS pitcher Andino is overrated! She has been on fire this year and nobody can take that away from her.

You are right, she was on fire and pitched 7 straight no hitters until she faced real competition. She hadn't faced Warwick, Gloucester or Menchville at that point. When she lost to Gloucester she didn't know how to handle it. She is a great pitcher, but is only a sophomore. She has some growing to do before she reaches the level that Coates and Byrd are at. Coates and Byrd know how to win, but more importantly they know how to lose. In another year or two she will be one of the best pitchers in the PD.

[sportsfan8]

Dude your not mistaken, but I think your missing the point. She said they represented the PD well. Menchville did go, but they weren't able to compete. It was kind of embarrassing.:(

I am sure they will all loose sleep tonight knowing they embarrassed you. It is never embarrassing when a team reaches that level. At least they were there. I would support any team from the PD...not call them an embarrassment. No team in the PD has never been able to compete with those teams..including Warwick and Gloucester.

I noticed in your post after the Woodside/Gloucester games, you made comments about rudeness and attitudes...maybe you should practice a little of that yourself.

[twiceasnice757]

Poptart and Brightlights, you guys are taking my comments literally, but that is partly my fault, I guess I have to be specific. My point was, they get knocked out of the playoffs early. Dominate the pd all you want, but you have to make noise outside of the pd to be classified as one of the best. And for Deerpark, we didn't lose in the first round pd tourney last year. But let me ask you all a question, in this decade, would you rather win innumerable amount of games in district, a few district championships only to lose early in regional play year in and year out? Or would you rather be in the top 3-4 teams every year in district play, win a district title, as well as a STATE title. Which team would you rather be the leader of? To me, winning district titles on a regular basis can say two things, 1. you're very good 2. your district is weak

[twiceasnice757]

You are right, she was on fire and pitched 7 straight no hitters until she faced real competition. She hadn't faced Warwick, Gloucester or Menchville at that point. When she lost to Gloucester she didn't know how to handle it. She is a great pitcher, but is only a sophomore. She has some growing to do before she reaches the level that Coates and Byrd are at. Coates and Byrd know how to win, but more importantly they know how to lose. In another year or two she will be one of the best pitchers in the PD.

Now let's give Woodside a lil more credit. First of all it wasn't 7 straight no no's, it was shut outs. And secondly, she shut out Warwick as well, something Coates wasn't able to do. Another year or two she will be one of the best? Truly speaking, you can state the argument that she is the best now. Not saying that, but the agrument can be made. Let's not forget, there is currently a two way tie for 1st, be mindful of that.

But on another topic, and this really bothers me. Let's just say for the sake of this comment, that Woodside wins the pd this year. I guarantee, Andino won't be first team all district. Why, because people will throw out there she is only a soph. And that makes no sense to me. Just like sportsfan8 made mention to "she is a great pitcher, BUT only a sophmore", who cares.

[League of Their Own]

Now let's give Woodside a lil more credit. First of all it wasn't 7 straight no no's, it was shut outs. And secondly, she shut out Warwick as well, something Coates wasn't able to do. Another year or two she will be one of the best? Truly speaking, you can state the argument that she is the best now. Not saying that, but the agrument can be made. Let's not forget, there is currently a two way tie for 1st, be mindful of that.

But on another topic, and this really bothers me. Let's just say for the sake of this comment, that Woodside wins the pd this year. I guarantee, Andino won't be first team all district. Why, because people will throw out there she is only a soph. And that makes no sense to me. Just like sportsfan8 made mention to "she is a great pitcher, BUT only a sophmore", who cares.

You seem to really have a real problem with Coates and Byrd and GHS and WaHS. You repeatedly try to discredit their ablilities and accomplishments. No matter how well Andino is doing this year, these ladies have paved their way. They accomplished their next steps. I have to agree with other comments that Andino has time to grow because Ive seen her attitude in travel ball, but her coach has no problems benching her because he has others just as good. I also agree that the top teams have all beaten each other so it's all about the second half. The districts is still up for grabs. Why are you so against a little competition?

[twiceasnice757]

You seem to really have a real problem with Coates and Byrd and GHS and WaHS. You repeatedly try to discredit their ablilities and accomplishments. No matter how well Andino is doing this year, these ladies have paved their way. They accomplished their next steps. I have to agree with other comments that Andino has time to grow because Ive seen her attitude in travel ball, but her coach has no problems benching her because he has others just as good. I also agree that the top teams have all beaten each other so it's all about the second half. The districts is still up for grabs. Why are you so against a little competition?

I must have missed something here, but who is bashing Coates or Byrd? I've commented on Gloucester and Warwick. I've mentioned that Andino should be mentioned in the same breath at Coates and Byrd. When have I bashed them? They are two exceptional pitchers. I just feel Andino doesn't get the respect she deserves because she is the new kid on the block so to speak. I'm an athlete, i've competed on the collegiate level, nothing inspires me more than a lil competition.

[sportsfan8]

Now let's give Woodside a lil more credit. First of all it wasn't 7 straight no no's, it was shut outs. And secondly, she shut out Warwick as well, something Coates wasn't able to do. Another year or two she will be one of the best? Truly speaking, you can state the argument that she is the best now. Not saying that, but the agrument can be made. Let's not forget, there is currently a two way tie for 1st, be mindful of that.

But on another topic, and this really bothers me. Let's just say for the sake of this comment, that Woodside wins the pd this year. I guarantee, Andino won't be first team all district. Why, because people will throw out there she is only a soph. And that makes no sense to me. Just like sportsfan8 made mention to "she is a great pitcher, BUT only a sophmore", who cares.

I will give credit to her for being a good pitcher, but she isn't in the same catagory as Coates or Byrd. She has to learn how to lose as well as win. I also don't think the fact that she is a sophomore has anything to do with her being selected all district. Plenty of girls are selected every year that aren't Juniors and Sophomores. If I remember correctly, Coates was All District as a sophomore. Andino should be in the running for it, but ultimately it should go to Coates, just like the other years. She is by far the best pitcher in the PD. I am not a Gloucester fan at all, but she deserves the recognition. Byrd is just a great player all the way around and can play any position. They both deserve all district.

[twiceasnice757]

I will give credit to her for being a good pitcher, but she isn't in the same catagory as Coates or Byrd. She has to learn how to lose as well as win. I also don't think the fact that she is a sophomore has anything to do with her being selected all district. Plenty of girls are selected every year that aren't Juniors and Sophomores. If I remember correctly, Coates was All District as a sophomore. Andino should be in the running for it, but ultimately it should go to Coates, just like the other years. She is by far the best pitcher in the PD. I am not a Gloucester fan at all, but she deserves the recognition. Byrd is just a great player all the way around and can play any position. They both deserve all district.

You made some good points and I agree with you on most of them. But I truly believe Andino's grade classification will hurt her when it comes to voting and the fact she is at the same position as two other stellar ball players (Byrd/Coates). So I pose a question for you, Coates puts up better numbers, but Woodside finishes first, who gets 1st team all district???????????

[sportsfan8]

You made some good points and I agree with you on most of them. But I truly believe Andino's grade classification will hurt her when it comes to voting and the fact she is at the same position as two other stellar ball players (Byrd/Coates). So I pose a question for you, Coates puts up better numbers, but Woodside finishes first, who gets 1st team all district???????????

I don't think it has anything to do with who finishes first. I think they vote on many different things when they select who gets All District. Just because a team finishes first doesnt mean the All District players come from that team and most of the time they don't. My personal opinion is that Coates should get it because I think she is the best, even better than Byrd. Even the best hitters can't get hits off her most of the time. Teams have never been able to score alot of runs against her. I think the last part of the season will tell alot. I am anxious to see how Andino does against Menchville today and then against Warwick and Gloucester the second time around. She is no doubt a great pitcher and player and deserves recognition, but again I just don't see her in the same catagory as Coates.

[twiceasnice757]

I respect your opinion

[Peninsula fan]

All of you bring up great points of course but Coates is the best until someone dethrones her. Byrd most likely is number two until they win out. They have the great hitting lineup remember and most likely that will show later.
By the way Woodside lost to Gloucester 3-1 in the district semi's last year on an error by the second baseman, not the first round.
Next... until a PD team advances to the regional finals (which Woodside has done twice, winning one and two state tournaments, winning one, then the wrap is always going to be the PD can't get it done. Gloucester and Warwick both have the guns to do it.... they just have to get it done. It doesn't matter what pitcher gave up how many hits, its which team can get it done. We should all be appreciative of how the district has improved. The 2000-2002 pd was most likely one of the best ever in reference to quality teams and pitching. Problem is most people weren't privey to seeing those teams play, so comparing is silly now. The PD has gotten much better 1-5 and we should enjoy the chase. The future should be now. Just go out and watch these teams play and stop with the constant bashing. There was a time when no one cared at all so enjoy the present.

[allsportsfan]

With all of this talk about Coates, Adino and Bryd. You might not want to forget about the kid from Kecoughtan Alexander. Looks like she is putting up some good numbers as well pitching and hitting. You know Coates will wrap up the number 1 1st team pitcher but as whom gets the second spot? Could the coaches vote a tie for pitchers since they usually elect 2 of them for 1st team and 2 of them for 2nd team?Are their possiblities for ties in other positions.

[twiceasnice757]

With all of this talk about Coates, Adino and Bryd. You might not want to forget about the kid from Kecoughtan Alexander. Looks like she is putting up some good numbers as well pitching and hitting. You know Coates will wrap up the number 1 1st team pitcher but as whom gets the second spot? Could the coaches vote a tie for pitchers since they usually elect 2 of them for 1st team and 2 of them for 2nd team?Are their possiblities for ties in other positions.

Allsportsfan, please explain to me, how do you figure Coates will wrap up the number 1 1st team selection? How can you say that at this point in the season? Are you assuming Gloucester will win the district therefore that will be the case? Don't get me wrong, Gloucester and Warwick are more talented all around than Woodside, but we all know talent doesn't always win you ball games, and the records show, we're a little more than halfway thru the season and Gloucester has another team right beside them in the standings. Andino could possibly be the pitcher on the best team in the district. How is she not 1st team? Andino already has the lower e.r.a. of the two (9 shutouts), and she has set the pd RECORD for consecutive innings w/o a run scored to start a season(45), now if Woodside wins the district, how is Andino not 1st team? And don't tell me because Coates has signed on to play college, and don't tell me because she is a senior, and don't tell me b/c Andino is a sophmore, and don't tell me b/c Coates is better all around, b/c Andino hits the ball extremely well, and don't tell me because she is the reigning pd player of the year, and definitely don't bring up character issues, b/c those that were at the game saw Andino stop play to remove a caterpillar from the field. Now I will give you this, Coates did win the head to head matchup, so that should account for something, but that's only in the event there is a tie at the end of the regular season. We are living in the now, and if the voting were to take place right now, you CAN'T keep Andino from the number 1 slot. But i'd love to hear from you.

[sportsfan8]

With all of this talk about Coates, Adino and Bryd. You might not want to forget about the kid from Kecoughtan Alexander. Looks like she is putting up some good numbers as well pitching and hitting. You know Coates will wrap up the number 1 1st team pitcher but as whom gets the second spot? Could the coaches vote a tie for pitchers since they usually elect 2 of them for 1st team and 2 of them for 2nd team?Are their possiblities for ties in other positions.

Another one that seems to be forgotten about is Holt for Menchville. She is also putting up some great numbers this year pitching and hitting. She pitched a great game againt Woodside yesterday.

[sportsfan1]

Atkins is pitching now to for Warwick. Don't count her out

[PDSBFan]

I may have missed something, but is there a reason for the change? Is it stratgey or injury?

[allsportsfan]

Stephanie Coates will make 1st team pitcher her 4th year in a row.The coaches elect two 1st team pitchers and two 2nd team pitchers. Adino has just of good a chance as the other pitchers Alexander and Byrd. Adino being a sophmore will be looked at secondary when the coaches vote. If I remember right when my son played baseball back a few years ago in the PD Stephanie Coates and Sarah Atkins were both 1st team pitchers as freshmen. A matter of fact haven`t they both been 1st team pitchers their freshmen, sophmore and junior years. Coates is a awesome pitcher and I`m not saying Adino is any less but Coates will not be dethroned this year and she will be remembered in this area for a long time. I wish her the best. She has dominated the PD thats for sure.As for Sarah Atkins I don`t think she will be 1st team pitcher her senior year and I think that says alot for what kind of a all around player she is to put herself in a postion that it wasn`t about all districts this year . It had to be more about what was best for the team her going behind the plate.

[WOHS Softball Fan]

Holt did pitch a great game yesterday against Woodside, but she has no off speed pitches. I think the more time she sees on the mound the better she will get. The game yesterday was truly a very good game! Scoreless until the 5th, and I think Holt had 1 walk and Andino had 1 walk and one HBP. The bottom of the lineup was hitting the ball very well yesterday for WoHS. I really think the two teams that will shine next year will be WoHS and MHS! GOOD LUCK THE REST OF THE SEASON MENCHVILLE!

[softball911]

Atkins is pitching now to for Warwick. Don't count her out
Atkins did pitch yesterday and after catching around the last ten or so games pitched a great game .I wouldn`t go as far as to say don`t count her out.Coates and Byrd are pitching great and I think those two if voted on today would be selected 1st team pitchers.Before anyone starts bashing this is my opinion .I don`t expect eveyone to agree.I think maybe Atkins threw yesterday to give Byrd a break and give the catcher some work behind the plate as well as Atkins some practice time on the mound.The offense still didn`t come around.There are some players putting up some good and not so good numbers that were all district last year either 1st or 2nd team.There will be some tough choices for the coaches if they base their votes on stats. If it is a popularity contest and political as everyone seems.There will be some players deserving that are not selected . Pitchers, catchers, short stop positions will be the toughest . Probably then outfield, second base, third base, first base and utility player in that order.Warwick will have several players that are capable of being first teamers.I choose Byrd (pitcher) Ward (short stop) Dawson ( 1st base) Atkins (utility) King( outfield) Atkins utility because she has pitched, caught and played second base this season and I think you are to suppose to play at three different positions to be nominated for utility player.

[twiceasnice757]

Stephanie Coates will make 1st team pitcher her 4th year in a row.The coaches elect two 1st team pitchers and two 2nd team pitchers. Adino has just of good a chance as the other pitchers Alexander and Byrd. Adino being a sophmore will be looked at secondary when the coaches vote. If I remember right when my son played baseball back a few years ago in the PD Stephanie Coates and Sarah Atkins were both 1st team pitchers as freshmen. A matter of fact haven`t they both been 1st team pitchers their freshmen, sophmore and junior years. Coates is a awesome pitcher and I`m not saying Adino is any less but Coates will not be dethroned this year and she will be remembered in this area for a long time. I wish her the best. She has dominated the PD thats for sure.As for Sarah Atkins I don`t think she will be 1st team pitcher her senior year and I think that says alot for what kind of a all around player she is to put herself in a postion that it wasn`t about all districts this year . It had to be more about what was best for the team her going behind the plate.

Ah darn, your number one 1st team all district with out a doubt buddy Stephanie Coates took another "L". This just in, 14k's, 4 runs, 4 rbi, 4-4, 2 doubles and a HR. Do you know whose stats these are? A player whose team is in first place right now. All I ask is give credit where credit is due, don't allow a players previous accomplishments to carry them along, this is now, and right now at 10:05pm on 4/25, Andino is the best in the district, and it's up to here to change that view, if Woodside drops a couple games, then someone else will be the favorite, it's not my opinion, numbers don't lie, they speak for themselves. And please realize, Coates is not a shoe-in as you believe, there are a couple other girls having great years as well that one can make an argument for. But you are right on one thing, she will be remembered, remembered for a sophmore taking her limelight (10 shutouts in 11 games and counting). NUMBERS DON'T LIE, THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

[WoHS Football]

andino should be first team i mean she does have the better stats for the season and more wins but the season isnt over

andino and hoeffer should be first team for woodside
hale and rodriguez could be somewhere in 2nd team or HM

[sportsfan8]

Ah darn, your number one 1st team all district with out a doubt buddy Stephanie Coates took another "L". This just in, 14k's, 4 runs, 4 rbi, 4-4, 2 doubles and a HR. Do you know whose stats these are? A player whose team is in first place right now. All I ask is give credit where credit is due, don't allow a players previous accomplishments to carry them along, this is now, and right now at 10:05pm on 4/25, Andino is the best in the district, and it's up to here to change that view, if Woodside drops a couple games, then someone else will be the favorite, it's not my opinion, numbers don't lie, they speak for themselves. And please realize, Coates is not a shoe-in as you believe, there are a couple other girls having great years as well that one can make an argument for. But you are right on one thing, she will be remembered, remembered for a sophmore taking her limelight (10 shutouts in 11 games and counting). NUMBERS DON'T LIE, THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Just because a team gets first place doesn't necessarily mean that pitcher will be first team all district. Sportsmanship should carry some weight in this decision and we all know that Andino has some growing to do in this area. The ones chosen are representing the PD as the best and that decision should be based on more than just stats. Coates will and should get this title. She has definitely earned it, especially her senior year.

[twiceasnice757]

Just because a team gets first place doesn't necessarily mean that pitcher will be first team all district. Sportsmanship should carry some weight in this decision and we all know that Andino has some growing to do in this area. The ones chosen are representing the PD as the best and that decision should be based on more than just stats. Coates will and should get this title. She has definitely earned it, especially her senior year.

Sportsfan you've just made my point. A point I've been trying to tell people for the last two weeks. Basically you feel Coates should be recognized as the best because she's a senior, and she has earned it because of her past accomplishments. You feel awards and recognition should be based on a popularity contest, well this isn't rec. league anymore, leave the politics at home. My point has been proven and everyone wanted to disagree with me. Andino will get slighted because she's a sophmore, point blank. I'm just glad none of you all have a vote at the end of the season. I encourage you to refer back to my prior post on page 8 in regards to sportsmanship issues. Regardless of the fact that Andino didn't shake hands, BUT, was made to go back and shake the coaches hand by herself doesn't matter to you all apparently, she made a mistake, corrected that mistake. How many times have you all made a mistake but been unable to go back and correct it, well, she was able to correct her mistake, issue over and done with. Now people speak on lack of sportsmanship, as aforementioned on page 8, during the Menchville/Woodside game, Andino delayed the start of game play to remove a caterpillar that had made it's way near the pitching mound. I don't care what anyone says, that speaks volumes as to the type of person she is, so don't give me the "she needs to grow up line anymore". Everyone has instances where they could have handled a situation better, you live and learn. Andino is the best at what she does at this present point (i'll be the first to tell you, alot of ball left, alot of big games left, this could definitely change, i'm a realist, i'm not saying Woodside won't lose again and Andino will be the best, i'm saying at this point in the season she is, recognize) the numbers speak for themselves.

[allsportsfan]

Ah darn, your number one 1st team all district with out a doubt buddy Stephanie Coates took another "L". This just in, 14k's, 4 runs, 4 rbi, 4-4, 2 doubles and a HR. Do you know whose stats these are? A player whose team is in first place right now. All I ask is give credit where credit is due, don't allow a players previous accomplishments to carry them along, this is now, and right now at 10:05pm on 4/25, Andino is the best in the district, and it's up to here to change that view, if Woodside drops a couple games, then someone else will be the favorite, it's not my opinion, numbers don't lie, they speak for themselves. And please realize, Coates is not a shoe-in as you believe, there are a couple other girls having great years as well that one can make an argument for. But you are right on one thing, she will be remembered, remembered for a sophmore taking her limelight (10 shutouts in 11 games and counting). NUMBERS DON'T LIE, THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
Right now at 6:58 pm Saturday 4/26 Gloucester pitcher Coates is still the pitcher to beat.I don`t know why you cannot get it that it does not matter about what grade your Woodside pitcher is. She`ll win 1st team on her numbers when she wins.She has had a great year .She is a great player. If she makes it to regionals you might be wanting to take a look at what Woodside will be up against when and if they get there. Go to the pilot high school website.What teams make it to regionals will have their hands full. Warwick and Gloucester lucked out by having the Norfolk district first and Norfolk is the weakest district right below the peninsula..My brother n law coaches in the chesapeake district and I can tell you Hickory and Great Bridge will run all over the peninsula this year.:eek:

[BCPofVa]

Unearned runs = Earned wins for the other team.

[twiceasnice757]

Right now at 6:58 pm Saturday 4/26 Gloucester pitcher Coates is still the pitcher to beat.I don`t know why you cannot get it that it does not matter about what grade your Woodside pitcher is. She`ll win 1st team on her numbers when she wins.She has had a great year .She is a great player. If she makes it to regionals you might be wanting to take a look at what Woodside will be up against when and if they get there. Go to the pilot high school website.What teams make it to regionals will have their hands full. Warwick and Gloucester lucked out by having the Norfolk district first and Norfolk is the weakest district right below the peninsula..My brother n law coaches in the chesapeake district and I can tell you Hickory and Great Bridge will run all over the peninsula this year.:eek:


Geez thanks, you have made me a believer. I now know why Coates is the best. Let me see if I have this correct. Being on the second best team + having the second best stats = being the best. Yep, 2+2= 5. That's the logic you are applying to this topic. Gimme a break. I agree, she might be the best, BUT, right now she's not performing like the best, she's performing like the second best. But I guess the place you come from recognizes second best as being the best, so more power to you. I'm done on this thread. I'm going to find a new thread where there are some rational thinking individuals.

[Sportsdad62]

It is way too early to already be saying a team or its pitcher is the best. There is no first or second best team. The season is only half over. Whatever the stats are right now does not determine who makes All District. Thats decided when the season is over. At this point there are to many games left to be played to be claiming you are the best and someone else is second best. This season has proven to be one of the most competitive the PD has seen in a long time, so anyone can still win.

[All about Ball]

As someone previously stated, it's not what you do, but who you know. It doesn't matter who puts up the best numbers; it's politics. For the last three years the first team pitchers has been the same Coates and Atkins. These ladies are seniors now so why will it change now. The really sad part is that the PD's first team pick(Atkins) didn't even pitch pass regular season. Byrd pitched. Byrd also won 1st team for Daily Press. The PD(1st & 2nd teams excluded) players like Jaime Powell(Bethel), Courtney Travis(Hampton), Lauren Kiser(GHS) etc. The election process is in need of evaluation.

There are politics everywhere should why should the PD be any different. In my opinion, Travonna has been one of the PD's top players over the last for years, but has never made 1st team so who cares. A scholarship is worth way more than PD accolades. However, it is sad when a player contributes so much to the game and not poperly recognized by her district. She's tried pitching, 2nd base & utility, but never a first team selection. District voting is like lawyers in a court room. Who ever can afford the best or should I say the "best known" attorneys will win. I don't believe Andino will have any problem cause her coach get his players on those teams more than the top teams in the district.

To all the players: play to the best of your abilities and keep your eyes on the big picture, COLLEGE. Seeing your name on a college website proves your hardwork didn't go unnoticed. Like twiceasnice757 said(over and over);) stats don't lie. So keep putting up the numbers cause college coaches don't care about PD accolades. It look good on paper but grades and performance is what counts. Attitudes are important too so stay positive.

There are still alot of games left to be played, but the real competition is on the field; not HRVarsity. :)
Part II of the season is alreading heating up.
Let Go RAIDERS!!!:clap2: Good luck to all the teams.

[WOHS Softball Fan]

Exactly, no one is trying to take anything away from either Byrd or Atkins, they are both great athletes that have made a statement in the PD! My point is this, your coach should be putting you up for the correct position. Atkins, should have probably been put up for 2nd base last year, and Byrd for Pitching. As far as the WoHS coach going into the ALL DISTRICT meeting and getting his players chosen, that is because he goes in prepared, he has done this many times for basketball and softball. It's not about being an attorney, it's about being prepared and knowing the game, and Coach Tallon has that great reputation!;)

[rivah230]

You are missing the point. Alot of us are sick of hearing about how great Pitchers are. The team wins championships...period. Sick of hearing about the "great" Pitchers in the area.

[Clipperfan1964]

You are missing the point. Alot of us are sick of hearing about how great Pitchers are. The team wins championships...period. Sick of hearing about the "great" Pitchers in the area.



Some of us are just sick of hearing you whine.

[allsportsfan]

You are missing the point. Alot of us are sick of hearing about how great Pitchers are. The team wins championships...period. Sick of hearing about the "great" Pitchers in the area.
I think your missing the point .All of us are sick of hearing you post so negative.You`ve been asked to stop and just keep on.The fact is the Bay Rivers have some great pitchers that you are going to hear alot about between now and the end of the season.They are great pitchers, Prosper, Mills and Gibbs and Carroll, Even Falin when she pitches is a great pitcher.The Peninsula District have great pitchers in Coates, Atkins,Alexander, Holt, Byrd and Adino.None of these teams would be great teams without a great pitcher.

[red J whs]

The great thing is that warwick faces gloucester and woodside again, and woodside faces gloucester and kecoughtan again as well so lets just see how the rest of tose games go between those 4 pitchers,(Byrd, Coates, Adino, and Alexander) then how about people decide who's first team and second team, just be patient!!!

[pop-tarts]

andino should be first team i mean she does have the better stats for the season and more wins but the season isnt over

andino and hoeffer should be first team for woodside
hale and rodriguez could be somewhere in 2nd team or HM

What would Hoeffer be first team for? Doesn't she play short-stop? Lets not forget, Alex Ward from Warwick this kid is performing GREAT, and senior short-stop from Bethel, Jamie Powell another strong atlethe!:confused2:

[underdog562]

I think your missing the point .All of us are sick of hearing you post so negative.You`ve been asked to stop and just keep on.The fact is the Bay Rivers have some great pitchers that you are going to hear alot about between now and the end of the season.They are great pitchers, Prosper, Mills and Gibbs and Carroll, Even Falin when she pitches is a great pitcher.The Peninsula District have great pitchers in Coates, Atkins,Alexander, Holt, Byrd and Adino.None of these teams would be great teams without a great pitcher.

There's a diference between good and great pitchers. Great pitchers, Coates, Mills, Byrd, Andino & Lincoln.

[Clipperfan1964]

What would Hoeffer be first team for? Doesn't she play short-stop? Lets not forget, Alex Ward from Warwick this kid is performing GREAT, and senior short-stop from Bethel, Jamie Powell another strong atlethe!:confused2:


My daughter played travel ball with Christy and Alex last year. I would have to give the edge to Christy at short-stop. There both great players Alex has more power but Christy is a consistent hitter with power to when she needs it. You would be hard pressed to find better players. Christy could probably be first team at just about any position you needed her at. Dont know much about Jamie Powell but she would have to be awfully good to beat out either one of these girls. Just my opinion after watching 90 games last year against the toughest competition we could find.

[Peninsula fan]

Just remember folks. This time of year means nothing. Its the end result that makes the difference. The coaches will not be influenced by anything other than whats best for the kids when its the time for voting of all district. Oh yeah! Almost forgot. The most talented teams don't always win out, and the most talented players don't always have the best seasons. There are too many intangibiles left to make the decisions or assumptions made on this site. In the end the proofs in the pudding not our opinions. Thats why you still have to play the game on the field, not on paper. There are way to many defensive comments made on these sites trying to justify or glorify everything that happens. Wonderful to support good play and good players. Be very nice to see more of it with less insult and ego to everyone involved. We are all quick to judge others when we have to become defensive of our own. The play of the kids is what should do the talking, not the people on this site.

[sballin17]

My daughter played travel ball with Christy and Alex last year. I would have to give the edge to Christy at short-stop. There both great players Alex has more power but Christy is a consistent hitter with power to when she needs it. You would be hard pressed to find better players. Christy could probably be first team at just about any position you needed her at. Dont know much about Jamie Powell but she would have to be awfully good to beat out either one of these girls. Just my opinion after watching 90 games last year against the toughest competition we could find.

If your daughter played travel ball with Kristie and Alex then you know the two do not play the same position and can't both play short stop at the same time. Head to head Alex is equally as good as Kristie and I wrote equally not just as good.

[League of Their Own]

Alex Ward is as good at Short Stop than any player in the PD. She has the batting average to go with it. Ward has really come up big for Warwick this year.

[twiceasnice757]

Alex Ward is as good at Short Stop than any player in the PD. She has the batting average to go with it. Ward has really come up big for Warwick this year.

I'm sure this Ward gal is the real deal, but comparing her to Hoeffer isn't very fair. I'm sure Ward is solid defensively, and as you mention her offensive numbers speak for themselves. BUT, Kristie Hoeffer is the truth. How many girls are able to make an over- the- head catch in shallow left/center field after being lined up directly between 2nd and 3rd (ala Willie Mays)? How many girls are able to turn a routine blooper hit to shallow center into a double, completing the play with an air-borne head first slide (ala Pete Rose)? Well i'll answer that for you, not very many. Now if any shortstop in the district is capable of that, let me know, but until then, Hoeffers the best at what she does (the total all around player).

[softball93]

I'm sure this Ward gal is the real deal, but comparing her to Hoeffer isn't very fair. I'm sure Ward is solid defensively, and as you mention her offensive numbers speak for themselves. BUT, Kristie Hoeffer is the truth. How many girls are able to make an over- the- head catch in shallow left/center field after being lined up directly between 2nd and 3rd (ala Willie Mays)? How many girls are able to turn a routine blooper hit to shallow center into a double, completing the play with an air-borne head first slide (ala Pete Rose)? Well i'll answer that for you, not very many. Now if any shortstop in the district is capable of that, let me know, but until then, Hoeffers the best at what she does (the total all around player).


I will second that!

[coachsports]

I triple that!!!!

and to answer your question I have seen Staples from Menchville do those things, the shortstop from Gloucester, and Powell from Bethel. Obviously you are blinded by Woodside's "select few" or should I say "two" because if you look hard enough the PD and the BRD are loaded with very capable athletes who are not only top notch, but who show good sportsmanship and pride in their sport by not lowering themselves to have someone pump them up on these forums. If you only took a look at your own team, Rodriguez is one of the best catchers I have seen lately. She is a true leader and champion for the sport.

I will also inform you that I have no relation to any team, just a fan who enjoys the sport of softball and one who enjoys watching teams compete with respect and love for the sport. The PD is the most competitive I have seen in years and it is truly exciting watching all of these young ladies work hard and have such success. All teams deserve credit for improving and truly showing a desire to compete! I love to watch all of you - Go Softball!!

[twiceasnice757]

It is really getting out of hand the way you keep shoving these girls down everyones throat. When teams are this good, people can see this for themselves. Its almost like your trying to convince everyone that they are good. Let their actions speak for themselves. Everytime someone talks about a good player on their team, you come on here telling how Woodside has one better than them. If its the pitcher, your pitchers better. If its the shortstop, your shortstops better. Woodisde is good but they aren't professionals. Other teams have players just as good. You are carrying this way too far now. If you were voting I guess the entire Woodside team would get 1st team all district for every position and no other team would get anything. Its almost comical to read your posts anymore.

Oh, i'm so sorry sportsfan8, I thought this thread was for Peninsula All District Nominees. Wait a minute, IT IS. If someone designed this topic for people to speak on All District Nominees, then obviously I can only speak on the players i'm familiar with as you are able to do the same. Someone else made the comparison between Hoeffer and Ward, and I put my own two cents into the equation. Other people make the comparison, but i'm the big bad poster on here. And to respond to your comment, no I wouldn't put the whole Woodside team as 1st team, but I would put our catcher no worse than second team. Go do something a little more constructive with your time then worry about people speaking on the topic at hand.

[twiceasnice757]

I triple that!!!!

and to answer your question I have seen Staples from Menchville do those things, the shortstop from Gloucester, and Powell from Bethel. Obviously you are blinded by Woodside's "select few" or should I say "two" because if you look hard enough the PD and the BRD are loaded with very capable athletes who are not only top notch, but who show good sportsmanship and pride in their sport by not lowering themselves to have someone pump them up on these forums. If you only took a look at your own team, Rodriguez is one of the best catchers I have seen lately. She is a true leader and champion for the sport.

I will also inform you that I have no relation to any team, just a fan who enjoys the sport of softball and one who enjoys watching teams compete with respect and love for the sport. The PD is the most competitive I have seen in years and it is truly exciting watching all of these young ladies work hard and have such success. All teams deserve credit for improving and truly showing a desire to compete! I love to watch all of you - Go Softball!!

Well, can't speak on Gloucester nor on Bethel. But you gotta be kidding me if you would take the girl from Menchville over Hoeffer. Just ask clipperfan on the previous page about Hoeffer, because obviously you've been misinformed about her. Please try to stay on topic CoachSports, why are you bringing up the BRD? Why would I care about the BRD? This topic is on ALL PD NOMINEES.

Wow, so now the girls are lowering themselves to have someone pump them up on these forums. For your information, the girls have no idea who I am on here. So please don't bring them into this, this is my doing. They are two talented young girls who love the game, so please don't make judgements about them. I will give you one thing though, Rodriguez is the real deal. Thank you Coach Sports

[twiceasnice757]

I'm sorry sportsfan, i've come to realize you take my posts to heart and i've touched a sensitive nerve. Instead of viewing me as a person who is a supporter of the Wolverines who maybe goes a little overboard with their comments and comparisons, and taking my comments as baseless, thus opting to pay me no mind. But you choose to entertain me as opposed to ignore me, which adds fuel to the fire when you disagree. So for that, I apologize miss.

But if I wanted to make everyone believe there has never been a team in the PD like this one (which I've never done, or else I wouldn't have said that Warwick and Gloucester could easily win it if Woodside drops a game or two), I wouldn't refer to the 08' squad, but instead I would reference the Wolverine state title team of 01'. Get your facts straight before you comment.

[WOHS Softball Fan]

Menchville has some talented girls..of course..no comparison to the almighty wolverines. It might be a nice guesture for you to stop putting down other girls like you just did one of Menchville girls. Staples has been playing ball for many years and could hold her on with most shortstops in the PD, inlcuding Hoeffer. You should get your facts straight!

I have known Sophia Rodriguez for many years..she is a great player just like her sisters! She doesn't need any pumping up from you. We know talent when we see it!


Sportsfan8 you are correct Staples has been playing ball for many years, but has she played shortstop. To my knowledge even in Travel Ball she played the outfield and this year is the first year she has played shortstop for high school.

[League of Their Own]

You never let others glorify their players at all without saying someone on Woodside is better than them. You talk like they are professionals and do things no other team has ever been able to do. You need to come down off of your Woodside pedestal. You actually compared them to professional baseball players. These are high school girls! Maybe you should do something more constructive with your time other than trying to convince everyone that there has never been a team in the PD like this one..because there are already several.

:amen: You just need to back off. There are other great players in the PD.

[Peninsula fan]

Hopefully Dave Johnson will pull all of these awful threads that are begining to surface. All this crap does is create hostility and poor sportsmanship. Who cares who thinks who is the best. Let them play and leave the debating off line. These threads were not created for chest thumping. I know of two coaches in the Pd who hate this site (WOHS)(GHS) because of how people improperly perceive things and create issues that normally would never surface. I too have sat in the stands and could not believe the stuff that comes out of the parents mouth. They are much worse than any action I've ever seen from any player or coach. Its no wonder stuff gets started. Most of it comes from the stands and the teams get the blame. The players are going to make some mistakes for numerous reasons, but they get alot of their cues from the conversations at home.
Let the people directly involved, ie. the players and coaches handle things. Thats what they do for a reason. All this other stuff serves no positive purpose at all!
If you can't be postive, they don't be negative. Find another outlet to vent that is more constructive. This site has created a hailstorm of problems.... as Lynn Burke predicted before they opended it up.

[coachsports]

To Twice as nice757

There is no need to bash Staples, I was merely answering your question about who could run down a ball "a la Willie Mays style" and dive head first to stretch out a single "a la Pete Rose" - you get to stirred up- there are other great athletes out there. Yes Staples is a true outfielder and would probably be one of the best this year - evidently she was needed at shortstop for her team. That is what is a true team player - because she is not at the top for short, but I don't see her complaining - she's out doing her best.

Don't be so brash - the sport doesn't need people talking so ugly- these girls are out doing their best for their team. Another example would be Adkins - she is a tremendous athlete and an awesome pitcher. She is also doing what is best by catching this year.

I am sure there are other athletes out there doing the same - playing out of position- but they still are great athletes and should be noted for all of their accomplishments.:clap2:

[twiceasnice757]

exactly what I was trying to say...Woodside is a great team with some great players, but so are the other teams. If you (twiceasnice757) can't get on here without talking trash about one of the players, then don't post at all. All that does is bring the girls down.

Sportsfan8 you're a joke :lol:. Now, can you stop using this board as a means to vent, your last 3 posts have consisted of you whining, so please, just try to get :focus:. As I will do the same.

[sportsfan8]

Sportsfan8 you're a joke :lol:. Now, can you stop using this board as a means to vent, your last 3 posts have consisted of you whining, so please, just try to get :focus:. As I will do the same.

If you read the post before me you would see that I am not the only one who sees you have a problem with you putting other players down. If you can't say something nice..then don't post at all. These are just high school girls. You seem to get angry if someone says anything pertaining to Woodside not being the best. All these teams have great players. Stop being so angry and let the kids enjoy the game!

[YC Sports Look]

Does your husband wife or daughters know what you guys are up to on this fourm



If you read the post before me you would see that I am not the only one who sees you have a problem with you putting other players down. If you can't say something nice..then don't post at all. These are just high school girls. You seem to get angry if someone says anything pertaining to Woodside not being the best. All these teams have great players. Stop being so angry and let the kids enjoy the game!

[twiceasnice757]

Does your husband wife or daughters know what you guys are up to on this fourm

Lol. My partner does, and I catch an earful everyday. But as I've stated, let's get back to the topic at hand. I'm just as guilty, sportsfan and myself have made this about us, instead of about the girls. If what I've said is that bad it would have been deleted by Lynn Burke, because I'm sure he is all over this thread. And the last I checked, every one of my posts are still there. So I call a truce, you don't message me and I won't message you, and as you made mention to, let the girls enjoy the game. Now, let's get :focus:

Go Wolverines

[srdrbll7]

My daughter played travel ball with Christy and Alex last year. I would have to give the edge to Christy at short-stop. There both great players Alex has more power but Christy is a consistent hitter with power to when she needs it. You would be hard pressed to find better players. Christy could probably be first team at just about any position you needed her at. Dont know much about Jamie Powell but she would have to be awfully good to beat out either one of these girls. Just my opinion after watching 90 games last year against the toughest competition we could find.

Last time i checked you dont get too much more consistent than Alex Ward's .500 batting average this has been her year to shine and she is doing so, and ALWAYS produces when needed, kristy is a great player and is an obvious leader for WoHS, but i would definitely give the edge to ward for true 1st team SS, but it has always been so political when deciding the all-district teams that it wouldnt surprise me if hoeffer did get selected 1st team, and from what i've seen Jamie is also a great shorstop , we'll see how it plays out

and as far as pitchers for 1st team i would choose Andino for her obvious stats and Byrd. I'm not sure what it is, but there has been a noticeable change in Coates this year, but she could always turn things around for the last couple games and the tournament. Alexander will definitely be second team, and i must commend her on a good season thus far.

It will an interesting vote for 1st team catcher, and i will say the obvious nominees are the catchers from GHS, WaHS, and WoHS
I believe Atkins should be strongly considered first team , but i am unclear of Rodriguez's batting this year. Should be tite.

[underdog562]

Did Hampton score on Woodside:confused:

[WOHS Softball Fan]

Last time i checked you dont get too much more consistent than Alex Ward's .500 batting average this has been her year to shine and she is doing so, and ALWAYS produces when needed, kristy is a great player and is an obvious leader for WoHS, but i would definitely give the edge to ward for true 1st team SS, but it has always been so political when deciding the all-district teams that it wouldnt surprise me if hoeffer did get selected 1st team, and from what i've seen Jamie is also a great shorstop , we'll see how it plays out

and as far as pitchers for 1st team i would choose Andino for her obvious stats and Byrd. I'm not sure what it is, but there has been a noticeable change in Coates this year, but she could always turn things around for the last couple games and the tournament. Alexander will definitely be second team, and i must commend her on a good season thus far.

It will an interesting vote for 1st team catcher, and i will say the obvious nominees are the catchers from GHS, WaHS, and WoHS
I believe Atkins should be strongly considered first team , but i am unclear of Rodriguez's batting this year. Should be tite.

Hoeffer is hitting over 500 as well and has no errors at short. Ward and Hoeffer are strong competitors at this position...Good Luck to both girls!

[Lynn Burke]

Lol. My partner does, and I catch an earful everyday. But as I've stated, let's get back to the topic at hand. I'm just as guilty, sportsfan and myself have made this about us, instead of about the girls. If what I've said is that bad it would have been deleted by Lynn Burke, because I'm sure he is all over this thread. And the last I checked, every one of my posts are still there. So I call a truce, you don't message me and I won't message you, and as you made mention to, let the girls enjoy the game. Now, let's get :focus:

Go Wolverines

Lynn took last night off from his incessant reading of the messsage boards to cover the Warwick-Gloucester softball game, so I didn't get to the boards until this morning.

As the icon says, :focus: please. And I'll hold the delete key in reserve.

[srdrbll7]

Hoeffer is hitting over 500 as well and has no errors at short. Ward and Hoeffer are strong competitors at this position...Good Luck to both girls!

If so then congrats to her too.
It will be very intersting to see who is awarded then
i agree good luck to both (:

[Since8]

not trying to say hoeffer isnt a great athlete because she definently is, but she did go 0-4 against the mhs pitche..holt? not the best pitcher in the district, why couldnt she get a hit?

[twiceasnice757]

not trying to say hoeffer isnt a great athlete because she definently is, but she did go 0-4 against the mhs pitche..holt? not the best pitcher in the district, why couldnt she get a hit?

I can totally understand why you aren't sold on Hoeffer, but Hoeffer is the best at what she does. Menchville was a poor showing for her, not her typical self, kudos to Holt, but she was stellar defensively as usual. I guarantee she won't go 0-4 against Alexander tomorrow.

[softball911]

The peninsula district has been probably the most competetive that we have seen in several years. The coaching staff from Hampton and Heritage have done a great job improving their programs.Bethel having lost top notch players made games closer than what some people thought. Eley their pitcher has kept her team in ball games against Menchville, Warwick and Kecoughtan.Gloucester is not in 1st place right now and that is a different look. But with 6 or 7 games left to be played anything can change. When it comes to district voting I do hope that the coaches vote fair.Leave the politics and popularity contest outside the meeting room.I don`t think any one player is a shoe in.There are alot of really good players stepping up this year for their teams. I think two of the most difficult postions will be the short stop and pitching position.The only difference is that there are 2 number 1 pitchers selected and 1 short stop. Hoeffer and Ward both sophmores are having incredible seasons and deserve to be on 1st team.

[twiceasnice757]

The peninsula district has been probably the most competetive that we have seen in several years. The coaching staff from Hampton and Heritage have done a great job improving their programs.Bethel having lost top notch players made games closer than what some people thought. Eley their pitcher has kept her team in ball games against Menchville, Warwick and Kecoughtan.Gloucester is not in 1st place right now and that is a different look. But with 6 or 7 games left to be played anything can change. When it comes to district voting I do hope that the coaches vote fair.Leave the politics and popularity contest outside the meeting room.I don`t think any one player is a shoe in.There are alot of really good players stepping up this year for their teams. I think two of the most difficult postions will be the short stop and pitching position.The only difference is that there are 2 number 1 pitchers selected and 1 short stop. Hoeffer and Ward both sophmores are having incredible seasons and deserve to be on 1st team.

Softball couldn't agree with you more. Tons of games left so much can change. I too hope the voting will be fair and past accomplishments won't sway any voters. But you bring up two points, I'm not going to touch on the pitching issue b/c I feel that is a no brainer, at this time in the year one player has that spot locked up (numbers don't lie, they speak for themselves). Now the Hoeffer and Ward debate, I haven't really followed Ward, but from what I hear she is just as good as Hoeffer, SO, if that is the case, doesn't the player that is on the best team at this present moment deserve the recognition of being the best? But again, this season has been so exciting I'm sure for everyone who enjoys the sport, and from the looks of things, a team can go from 1st to 5th between now and the end of the season, and that's not too farfetched. I just feel at this point in the season, two spots are locked up and a third spot is a 2nd team no brainer.

[sportsfan8]

Softball couldn't agree with you more. Tons of games left so much can change. I too hope the voting will be fair and past accomplishments won't sway any voters. But you bring up two points, I'm not going to touch on the pitching issue b/c I feel that is a no brainer, at this time in the year one player has that spot locked up (numbers don't lie, they speak for themselves). Now the Hoeffer and Ward debate, I haven't really followed Ward, but from what I hear she is just as good as Hoeffer, SO, if that is the case, doesn't the player that is on the best team at this present moment deserve the recognition of being the best? But again, this season has been so exciting I'm sure for everyone who enjoys the sport, and from the looks of things, a team can go from 1st to 5th between now and the end of the season, and that's not too farfetched. I just feel at this point in the season, two spots are locked up and a third spot is a 2nd team no brainer.

If 2 girls are both equally qualified for 1st team, you can't choose the one who was onthe better team. That wouldn't be fair to the other girl. Both girls played equally hard so just giving it to the one whose team is better is unfair. You can't hold her responsible for her team. I think they have plenty to look at when making that decision. They can look at their bats as well. It will be a tough one though. Both girls certainly deserve it. Glouester has a great shortstop as well.

[CoachBell]

There is much talk about many players and granted they deserve some of the attention. However there is an unsung player in the PD that for some reason no one chooses to recognize. This player has batted over 500 for the season, has been defensively sound throughout - only 1 error to this point in the season. And has been one of the most consistent ball players thoughout the season. Not to mention this player is one of the nicest, hard working kids I have ever come across. AND her team is in contention for the district race.

Yes, I am a fan of her work ethic and her performances. Whether you put a WIN or LOSE in the column this kid never knows the word defeat. Regardless of her team it should be recognized what she contributes not only to her team but also to the sport. A model of work ethics for other to follow. And without a shadow of a doubt should make the ALL DISTRICT TEAM - Karli Robb of Gloucester.

Kid regardless of the accolades that may or may not be publicly recognize remember that true fans of the sport having the opportunity to watch you play enjoy every minute of it! Keep up the hard work!

[@weezy MF:)]

There is much talk about many players and granted they deserve some of the attention. However there is an unsung player in the PD that for some reason no one chooses to recognize. This player has batted over 500 for the season, has been defensively sound throughout - only 1 error to this point in the season. And has been one of the most consistent ball players thoughout the season. Not to mention this player is one of the nicest, hard working kids I have ever come across. AND her team is in contention for the district race.

Yes, I am a fan of her work ethic and her performances. Whether you put a WIN or LOSE in the column this kid never knows the word defeat. Regardless of her team it should be recognized what she contributes not only to her team but also to the sport. A model of work ethics for other to follow. And without a shadow of a doubt should make the ALL DISTRICT TEAM - Karli Robb of Gloucester.

Kid regardless of the accolades that may or may not be publicly recognize remember that true fans of the sport having the opportunity to watch you play enjoy every minute of it! Keep up the hard work!


Completely agreed Coach, Keep up the hard work Karli, your doing better then ever. :)
-Alex Ward.

[mrobb]

Completely agreed Coach, Keep up the hard work Karli, your doing better then ever. :)
-Alex Ward.
Thanks Alex! Great game the other day.......:clap2:
Miss Molly & Karli

[kochanie803]

wait a minute...twiceasnice...aren't you in here talking about yourself...and how youre better than alex ward?? and then is that not your mother in here too...wohs softball fan or whatever..putting you up too? thats weird...

[srdrbll7]

It can't be her kochanie8,
she says she doesnt know or follow alex ward.
:)

[kochanie803]

I can totally understand why you aren't sold on Hoeffer, but Hoeffer is the best at what she does. I guarantee she won't go 0-4 against Alexander tomorrow.

holy moses, i thought i was conceited...

[softball4girls]

Thanks Alex! Great game the other day.......:clap2:
Miss Molly & Karli

That's sportsmanship....WHS & GHS are the biggest the PD competitors and good attitudes. :clap2:

[kochanie803]

thats the most accurate thing ive read on this entire website since it started.
warwick and gloucester do indeed seem to be able to keep themselves under control. even in defeat. you can tell on the field and i guess on the web that "other teams"..wink wink...dont follow suit.

go alex ward go alex ward go alex ward nice job in the gloucester game!!!!!:clap2:

[League of Their Own]

Warwick's Right fielder, Gostomski made a play that ended the rally and changed the momentum of GHS and WHS game yesterday. She was also The one that made the shoe string catch to save some runs the last time these two teams met. She has played big and is a definite pick for "All District Outfiielder":clap2:

[WOHS Softball Fan]

If 2 girls are both equally qualified for 1st team, you can't choose the one who was onthe better team. That wouldn't be fair to the other girl. Both girls played equally hard so just giving it to the one whose team is better is unfair. You can't hold her responsible for her team. I think they have plenty to look at when making that decision. They can look at their bats as well. It will be a tough one though. Both girls certainly deserve it. Glouester has a great shortstop as well.

Actually two spots should not be locked. Alex Ward is a great player and young lady and I would never take anything away from her, but she did miss the Menchville game. Hoeffer has not missed a game, is batting well over 500 and has not made an error. That there has my vote. Both of these athletes are stellar, so may the best girl win!

[WOHS Softball Fan]

wait a minute...twiceasnice...aren't you in here talking about yourself...and how youre better than alex ward?? and then is that not your mother in here too...wohs softball fan or whatever..putting you up too? thats weird...

No Kochran, Hoeffer is not in here talking about herself, as a matter of fact she does not even care about this stuff, so quit trying to stir the pot!!!;)

[underdog562]

No Kochran, Hoeffer is not in here talking about herself, as a matter of fact she does not even care about this stuff, so quit trying to stir the pot!!!;)

WOHS Softball Aren't you someone's parent? Sad:mad: now I see where the kids get it from. Everyone knows how you sent a private message a Warwick player and keep accusing her of being Kochran, but you are wrong. And even it was, why would a parent email a player rubbing playing time in her face. And yes she does get to play for Warwick, as a matter of fact she starts. You're up here telling me about myself. I hope my girl don't read this stuff. You should be ashamed. I remember you arguing with another player about being at WoHS football instead of practice. Is that a parent's place. :confused: and you talk about stirring the pot, "if that not the pot calling the kettle ..." And you are always talking about good luck to both teams :lol: that's the biggest joke. The diffence between you and I is I just tell it like, I see it and you try to hide (private messages) and pretend to be someone that your not.

[WOHS Softball Fan]

WOHS Softball Aren't you someone's parent? Sad:mad: now I see where the kids get it from. Everyone knows how you sent a private message a Warwick player and keep accusing her of being Kochran, but you are wrong. And even it was, why would a parent email a player rubbing playing time in her face. And yes she does get to play for Warwick, as a matter of fact she starts. You're up here telling me about myself. I hope my girl don't read this stuff. You should be ashamed. I remember you arguing with another player about being at WoHS football instead of practice. Is that a parent's place. :confused: and you talk about stirring the pot, "if that not the pot calling the kettle ..." And you are always talking about good luck to both teams :lol: that's the biggest joke. The diffence between you and I is I just tell it like, I see it and you try to hide (private messages) and pretend to be someone that your not.


I tell it like I see it too, DON"T HATE THE PLAYERS HATE THE GAME!!!!:lol: LOL YOU ARE TOO FUNNY!

[underdog562]

Warwick's Right fielder, Gostomski made a play that ended the rally and changed the momentum of GHS and WHS game yesterday. She was also The one that made the shoe string catch to save some runs the last time these two teams met. She has played big and is a definite pick for "All District Outfiielder":clap2:
Finally.... positions other than pitching and SS.

[twiceasnice757]

wait a minute...twiceasnice...aren't you in here talking about yourself...and how youre better than alex ward?? and then is that not your mother in here too...wohs softball fan or whatever..putting you up too? thats weird...

Oh my goodness, you are so sadly mistaken. As aforementioned, I'm not a player, I'm not a parent, I'm not a relative and I'm not a student, the girls I make mention of have no idea who I am. You guys trip me out over here, making assumptions that are totally false . If you feel you know the scoop, maybe you should keep it to yourself, because when you come online and speak on it, you make yourselves look quite silly.I'm merely a fan, that's it. I've been posting on here since the inception of this site, from Football to Basketball to Baseball. I encourage you to go back and read my prior posts, then maybe, just maybe, that will clear some things up for you all. Now, let's get :focus:

[ayoung019]

Most of the people on this forum are not the parents... most of them are the kids actually playing the sport. You can tell by the way they talk.

[sportsfan8]

Most of the people on this forum are not the parents... most of them are the kids actually playing the sport. You can tell by the way they talk.

I am pretty sure you are right on this one. I can't imagine a parent saying some of these things. There is one team particular team on here that is talked about over and over and over about how good they are. They are pretty much referred to on a daily basis as the best team in the PD. They apparently have a better shortstop and pitcher than any team in the PD has ever have and are simply unbeatable. We have girls that have been playing in the PD for years now and have been 1st team all district for being the great athletes they are. This year I guess they need to step aside. We should probably just name that whole team 1st team all district. I just hope they can live up to the reputation they have been given by the ones who have been posting these things.

[allsportsfan]

Actually two spots should not be locked. Alex Ward is a great player and young lady and I would never take anything away from her, but she did miss the Menchville game. Hoeffer has not missed a game, is batting well over 500 and has not made an error. That there has my vote. Both of these athletes are stellar, so may the best girl win!
Unforutnately coaches cannot see how every player performs at every game.Some coaches may keep hitting highllights on each girl from what the paper reports and we all know that the box scores are not always correct.Unless you were the coaches from Menchville or Warwick or visited hrvarsity most of the coaches would not of known that Ward missed a game.I don`t think a missed game will keep Ward from getting first team.This is why a player has to play their best and not take anything for granted at every game.To me it`s about how one does against the better competetion whether than the lesser competetion.I haven`t seen where any one player stands out against the better competetion.But if I had to choose a hot hitting bat right now the Ward players name has been in every game standout that Warwick has played in except the Menchville game because she did not play.Big hits against the top pitchers in the district.I`m not so sure that is true for the other shortstops that everyone is talking about. Hoeffer, Powell, Staples and Robb.I think this ss postion will be very close and maybe it will end in a tie.It definitely looks like Ward and Hoeffer are the favorites here on this forum.Only a few more weeks and the decision will be made.Ward and Hoeffer just keep up the hard work and do what you do best.
Your both sound like you are great players and I hope even better students in school.

[@weezy MF:)]

Finally.... positions other than pitching and SS.

I feel you on that one underdog, I mean honestly from my opion why is this such a big deal to everyone? And why does everyone have to bash one another? It's just a dumb award that allows you to shine for what five minutes? Anyways good luck to every girl out there, even if you don't win don't get down on yourself, just keep playing the game and do it on the field. By the way Ms. Tracy tell Kristie I said i love her haha, see you guys saturday :tongue:

[red J whs]

Ok its honestly time to put this whole thing to rest both players are good and the best thing is that they are both sophmores, so we'll see them for more years. However for this year i would say that ward should get it, first you cant blame for missing a game because of injury(and she was cleared to play it was a coaches decision that she didnt), second everyone who watches warwick's games would know that a majority of the errors that she is charged with arent even really her fault. Third baseball is a two sided game there's offensive and defense, and ward definitely makes up for whatever mistakes she makes in the field, when she is at the plate, and even though she has missed 1 game i believe that her offensive numbers are better then hoeffer, so for that i would say that it is obvious that ward should win it.

[softballrocks22]

The number 4 (a freshman) batter for KHS hit a triple in the GHS game and was walked her next time up to bat. At the second GHS game she hit a double off the fence, was walked and hit a line shot to right field that was caught. She's batted .500 against Byrd and Coates.

[WOHS Softball Fan]

Unforutnately coaches cannot see how every player performs at every game.Some coaches may keep hitting highllights on each girl from what the paper reports and we all know that the box scores are not always correct.Unless you were the coaches from Menchville or Warwick or visited hrvarsity most of the coaches would not of known that Ward missed a game.I don`t think a missed game will keep Warwd from getting first team.This is why a player has to play their best and not take anything fo granted at every game.To me it`s about how one does against the better competetion whether than the lesser competetion.I haven`t seen where any one player stand out against he better competetion.But if I had to choose a hot hitting bat right now the Ward player her name has been in every game standout that Warwick has played in except the Menchville game I guess because she did not play.Big hits against the top pitchers in the district.I`m not so sure that is true for the other shortstops that everyone is talking about. Hoeffer, Powell, Staples and Robb.I think this ss postion will be very close and maybe it will end in a tie.It definitely looks like Ward and Hoeffer are the favorites here on this forum.Only a few more weeks and the decision will be made.Ward and Hoeffer just keep up the hard work and do what you do best.

Your both sound like you are great players and I hope even better students in
school.


That was a very nice post! The best thing about this Hoeffer and Ward have been playing together since they were 10 years old and are like sisters! Best of Luck to you both! We LOVE YOU!!!

[sballin17]

Alex Ward you are a class act. Even though for every person who praises you, then posts are made to diminish your accomplishments, you stay sincerly positive. That is why you are truly admired by many and not just Warwick fans! :clap2:

[kochanie803]

first of all, i am not kelsey cochran, and i think people are assuming that because of my name..but kochanie means something like love or lovely in polish. so yeah, not kochran or cochran or cockran. sorry.

and second of all, ALEX ward did not choose to miss that first menchville game because she wanted to..her thumb was sprained and the warwick athletic director would not clear her to play. she had notes from her own doctor saying she could play, but wasnt allowed. alex is a great girl, a great friend, and an even greater ball player. sportsmanship qualities should be taken into account with the all pd team here because people playing themselves up on the internet like everyone else doesnt know who it is, doesnt deserve that..in my opinion. of course this all has nothing to do with who actually gets chosen..

and third, yeah thats you talking about yourself because if you look at almost all of your posts twiceasnice, its 90% of the time about kristie hoeffer or however the heck you spell it. and "how good she is." not discrediting her or anything, shes great but come on now... and yeah thats your mother too. and i wish you could pass on to her that she does not need to send me private messages saying negative things about other people anymore.

thank you and goodnight.

[rivah230]

Finally.... positions other than pitching and SS.


AMEN-watch out......It's not the popular opinion!!!

[twiceasnice757]

first of all, i am not kelsey cochran, and i think people are assuming that because of my name..but kochanie means something like love or lovely in polish. so yeah, not kochran or cochran or cockran. sorry.

and second of all, ALEX ward did not choose to miss that first menchville game because she wanted to..her thumb was sprained and the warwick athletic director would not clear her to play. she had notes from her own doctor saying she could play, but wasnt allowed. alex is a great girl, a great friend, and an even greater ball player. sportsmanship qualities should be taken into account with the all pd team here because people playing themselves up on the internet like everyone else doesnt know who it is, doesnt deserve that..in my opinion. of course this all has nothing to do with who actually gets chosen..

and third, yeah thats you talking about yourself because if you look at almost all of your posts twiceasnice, its 90% of the time about kristie hoeffer or however the heck you spell it. and "how good she is." not discrediting her or anything, shes great but come on now... and yeah thats your mother too. and i wish you could pass on to her that she does not need to send me private messages saying negative things about other people anymore.

thank you and goodnight.

First let me apologize to everyone who finds me annoying at times, because now I see first hand how it is to be on the other end. I mean How many times will this kochanie803 accuse me of being Hoeffer, goodness, sorry to burst your little bubble, but I'm not Hoeffer, but I am her number 1 fan. And actually, 50% of my posts are about Andino 40% about Hoeffer and 10% about Woodside. So please get it right if you wish to call me out. :focus:

[WOHS Softball Fan]

first of all, i am not kelsey cochran, and i think people are assuming that because of my name..but kochanie means something like love or lovely in polish. so yeah, not kochran or cochran or cockran. sorry.

and second of all, ALEX ward did not choose to miss that first menchville game because she wanted to..her thumb was sprained and the warwick athletic director would not clear her to play. she had notes from her own doctor saying she could play, but wasnt allowed. alex is a great girl, a great friend, and an even greater ball player. sportsmanship qualities should be taken into account with the all pd team here because people playing themselves up on the internet like everyone else doesnt know who it is, doesnt deserve that..in my opinion. of course this all has nothing to do with who actually gets chosen..

and third, yeah thats you talking about yourself because if you look at almost all of your posts twiceasnice, its 90% of the time about kristie hoeffer or however the heck you spell it. and "how good she is." not discrediting her or anything, shes great but come on now... and yeah thats your mother too. and i wish you could pass on to her that she does not need to send me private messages saying negative things about other people anymore.

thank you and goodnight.

And yeah you did spell KRISTIE HOEFFER correct THANKS :lol:!!!!

[underdog562]

I thought this was about the girls, everyone is talking about sportsmanship... So, where is the sportsmanship? I can defiantly see where the Woodside kids get it from now. Its sad when a parent gets online to argue and go back and fourth with 16-17 year old ball players! That goes back to home training and if the kids can't look up to their parents as role models then who can they look up too? How can you expect the kid to grow up, when the parent never did!:mad: So I guess that's a good excuse as to why the kids act the way they do! Come on parents lets act our age, your not in high school anymore!

[twiceasnice757]

I thought this was about the girls, everyone is talking about sportsmanship... So, where is the sportsmanship? I can defiantly see where the Woodside kids get it from now. Its sad when a parent gets online to argue and go back and fourth with 16-17 year old ball players! That goes back to home training and if the kids can't look up to their parents as role models then who can they look up too? How can you expect the kid to grow up, when the parent never did!:mad: So I guess that's a good excuse as to why the kids act the way they do! Come on parents lets act our age, your not in high school anymore!

Underdog, I repsect everything you just said, sportsmanship is essential, adults should not be bickering with children, parents should be role models and lead by example. You're right on with that. BUT, I take exception to the comment, "I can see where the Woodside kids get it from", that is a baseless accusation. There was one incident with one player early in the year, that incident was handled on the spot, over and done with. Now, it goes from one player, to now it's Woodside KIDS (plural), that's not fair and that's not right for you to write something like that. When people get on here and read your post, they may now entertain that comment and start to question, and it's not accurate. You're also essentially slapping the Woodside program in the face, saying they allow there players to be poor sports. Woodside is lead by arguably the most respected man in the state on the high school level, not to mention most respected coach in the state. And there is a reason it's like that, he's a class act and his teams are as well. Now let's get back to the topic. Go Woodside.

[srdrbll7]

twiceasnice757 you puzzle me in some ways, you seem to have soo much knowledge of the game and woodside and claim no relation, then you claim to be an adult, and then say "adults should not be bickering with children," when you are constantly bickering with other posters on here and some our obvious ballplayers.thats all i want to say, not interested in talking about it anymore.
so you're right, now we should go :focus:
I also believe the catcher for KHS should be taken under consideration for atleast second team.

[softball93]

Looks like this is all burnt out just about time to pull the plug don't you think Mr. Burke. I do like the KHS catcher, nothing gets by her and she throws out just about everyone.

[allsportsfan]

Looks like this is all burnt out just about time to pull the plug don't you think Mr. Burke. I do like the KHS catcher, nothing gets by her and she throws out just about everyone.

I would have to agree with softball93 on this one Mr. Burke. Time to put the lock on this forum.