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[forsurehooper]

slow down coach k fan, you must have missed some of my post, because if you read them i gave the players the utmost respect, so before you go off, read the post i put in. I do not know about last year, but I guess if you would like me to find out i could defintely ask the parent who told me who the guy was, i bet she can tell me about last year. I give the guys credit so we do agree on that, because without the young men it would be no coach k 400 wins! he may be still at the number he was if it was not for the players these last two years, so i guess we can agree on that(right?) i do not take sides, I just told you what i have seen and heard, do not kill the messenger and you may need to do more background on this before you make some statments that you made. I have done mine, because I was interested in who the guy was, you may want to do some yourself too!! Ask one of the parents, maybe they can tell you about the coach shieldds guy, as far as I am concerned I just listened to him and watch the players. I would love to see mennchville make some noise, but as hard2guard said, somebody is not going to make it our of the PD, but i am going to root for whatever team makes it!!

[forsurehooper]

I agree also that coach brower is a good coach and i have always like what his program has done, We cannot compare no coach in the district to coach brower but coach thomas at kecoughtan, both of these coach es have won state championships and these other coaches are trying to get what these coaches have already accomplished. Rice all that best coach in the district stuff, you tell me thsi what makes him the best coach in the district and please have a good answer!!

[RICE]

Originally Posted by forsurehooper

Hey! don't get upset with me, I am only telling what i saw from the guy and what I heard from a parent. He may have 400 wins and he may have been doing some good coaching, but I saw something different and whether you two want to gove him the credit that is ok with me, everyone does not share the same opinion, but it's alright and I'm not here to go back and forth with you. i know one thing the parent beside me thought different. As a matter of fact, that coach shields guy trained them this year and i did my background cjheck on that! Coach k may have been all you said, but he's not responsible for these guys!! No way, No HOW! My hats off to the menchville players, they have done a great job of fighting in games, but I guess according to yall, coack k did that too. So let me ask you this since noth of you are educated on this, why does these kids do what the guy coach shields say, because they defintely listen to him, he's no regualr fan!! i can see that and yo ucan say what you want about that. To the menchville guys, i love watching menchville guys, because they play hard for one another. Good game and hats off to both teams, I think a round 3 would be good.

I saw Menchville play twice early in the season and didn't see this Coach Shields that you are talking about. Are you telling me that Coach K tells them to run a play and this guy tells them to run something from their AAU team and the kids change the play. Are you serious? Really? Who's plays are they running? Who prepped them for each week? So they are going to practice at Menchville. Leaving their Menchville practice and going to a practice with this Coach Shields and running his plays during the games? Really? Lastly, I have learned one thing about parents in stands, they don't know much. Did this anonymous woman have a child on the team who was not getting time? Was she mad at Coach K? Life lesson-When people tell you things, make sure you understand their motivation. Coach K can't coach? Please!

[RICE]

Originally Posted by hard2guard

I ask how can one say Coach K is better than Coach Brower? How can one say Coach Brower is better than Coach K? I think your opinion is a bias one and that's ok. Keeping a team fundamentally sound and getting the best out of their respective role players, I think Coach Brower is one of the best! Is he better than K? Getting kids to play hard for him, I think Coach K is one of the best? Does that make him better than Coach Brower? It is ok to have your bias opinion, but make it factual and make everyone say, "well he has a point there." You know the sad thing is, one of these good teams from the PDwill get bumped off and not be able to make it to the regionals. As of today, Bethel would have to play Phoebus 4 vs 5. I just hate to see one of them go down after the great season and a great bunch of kids. That's just the way the ball bounces. I think evryone should make the tournament and give the top two teams a bye for the first round. That way you don't have that 4 vs 5 match up.

Coach Brower is a great coach. No disrespect to him. I just think coach K, over time, has done more with less. They are both great coaches.

[forsurehooper]

rice yur opinion is respected, i never said the man cannot coach. I told you what i seen and I do not think the guy has to call plays, but listening to the guy, he defintely said basketball related priniciples and things at the phoebus game that made a major impact on how the game changed. I am sorry you are so upset, but if you had been there and listened you would have heard and as a matter of fact, he did tell them to run a certain play and they did, I do not know if it was a aau play but they ran it and was successful, but he coached them on both sides of the floor. I was just a spectator, but some phoebus fans, even made the comment that the coach is coaching over here. You made your statements and I told you what I heard, if you don' t like it so what. Yo u may ant to retract your statements, because there are some parents who do have a understandin of the game. I cannot answer all those questions you asked, and whether you like it or not and you do not have to respond again, this is what I seen and i am not the only witness to this, should have been at the phoebus game. I am not hating, just stating what I seen, you sound a little upset, it's going to be alright RICE! you do not have to respond back if you do not want too anymore, but I am going to be watching their ext couple of games if my team does not play. Watch it there are some parents who know the game!!

[forsurehooper]

rice your opinion is respected, i never said the man cannot coach. I told you what i seen and I do not think the guy has to call plays, but listening to the guy, he defintely said basketball related priniciples and things at the phoebus game that made a major impact on how the game changed. I am sorry you are so upset, but if you had been there and listened you would have heard and as a matter of fact, he did tell them to run a certain play and they did, I do not know if it was a aau play but they ran it and was successful, but he coached them on both sides of the floor. I was just a spectator, but some phoebus fans, even made the comment that the coach is coaching over here. You made your statements and I told you what I heard, if you don' t like it so what. Yo u may ant to retract your statements, because there are some parents who do have a understandin of the game. I cannot answer all those questions you asked, and whether you like it or not and you do not have to respond again, this is what I seen and i am not the only witness to this, should have been at the phoebus game and hampton game. I am not hating, just stating what I seen, you sound a little upset, it's going to be alright RICE! you do not have to respond back if you do not want too anymore, but I am going to be watching their next couple of games if my team does not play. Watch it, there are some parents who know the game!! I asked you what is your defintion of a good coach, because that will answer some things for me about what a good coach is, but you do not have to respond if you do not want too, I understand it's cool. After this i will no longer enertain the topic, I will just continue to watch PD basketball and enjoy the game and maybe you need to watch the menchville game yourself!! i m done

[Pibbs]

Listen Coach shields needsto get alot of credit for the play of the MHS guys..along with Coach Artis..these guys were the AAU coach and had these guys for the pass three yrs..before Coach K was at MHS..and yes they leave practice and go work out with Shields they train twice a week wit him so yes thats why they listen to him he has put the time in...

Question..good coaching?it is great to have wins..but in my book coaches are rated on rings and gettin kids in school? Coach K has and does neither...in his yrs name the last he put in school...............? matter of fact from my sources on his staff now he was asked to play in all the showcase games this yr but said he doesnt like coaching in those games? Hello showcase games are for the players not the coaches..so if all u do is win games and dont wiin titles or dont send kids to the next level, tell me how good of a coach are you??