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[twiceasnice757]

Originally Posted by RICE

I said lastly, so I had to start over again. Congratulations to Coach Brower! No transfers. Not from across the street. Not from another city. Not from another state. Not from another continent. No cheating. He grew a group of kids up, a team, from jv through varsity and they actually arrived a year before schedule. This Hampton squad is homegrown just like all of Browers state winners. They will be back next year, scary! They will be smarter, bigger and stronger. Scary for everybody. Back to back pd state championships.

RICE you're usually right on, but I think you're a little off on a couple points. 1. Like Dynasty said, you need to be congratulating Eric Brown. 2. According to 757 preps, Hampton has a transfer who played for Phoebus last year, they said he played 16 minutes. 3. Towsons' staff isn't going anywhere. The coach is only in his first year and was able to land a top notch recruit like Mason. You know the game, stars bring other stars/quality players to the program. Mason didn't just come to Towson just for the basketball program, he came for the coach. Mason was lined up to be playing ball further up north. But you're right on one thing, Barber is awesome. Can't wait to see where he ends up signing. And Hampton is very young (juniors),they'll be the hands down favorites in the PD next year.

[RICE]

Originally Posted by twiceasnice757

RICE you're usually right on, but I think you're a little off on a couple points. 1. Like Dynasty said, you need to be congratulating Eric Brown. 2. According to 757 preps, Hampton has a transfer who played for Phoebus last year, they said he played 16 minutes. 3. Towsons' staff isn't going anywhere. The coach is only in his first year and was able to land a top notch recruit like Mason. You know the game, stars bring other stars/quality players to the program. Mason didn't just come to Towson just for the basketball program, he came for the coach. Mason was lined up to be playing ball further up north. But you're right on one thing, Barber is awesome. Can't wait to see where he ends up signing. And Hampton is very young (juniors),they'll be the hands down favorites in the PD next year.

Don't be thrown off by who is standing up during the game. Who puts the plans together in practice, Coach Brower. Who sets the tone beginning at the jv level where Coach Brower's son develops the kids under his dad's tutelage, Coach Brower. Who coached and developed the last couple of state winners at Hampton High, Coach Brower. How do I know this? He has been doing the same thing for decades. I don't know or understand why you guys are prejudiced against the old school coaches, but get over it! Are you kidding me? I am embarassed that you guys are even trying to go there. Who coached Eric Brown, Coach Brower. Coach Brower's team this year plays like all of his teams have on defense. His signature is all over this team. You guys just haven't been around long enough to have seen this stuff season in and season out for a couple of decades. Will Brown take over at some point, yes. Will his teams look like Coach Brower's teams, yes. That is called being a protege. Give me a break! Kids are going to see 1-31 at Towson. They won't be coming to Towson. Remember they play in a conference with ODU, VCU, and GMU. Those teams will continue to get the best players because they have history. Towson was the first school to pursue Mason according to Mason, so this coach didn't start the process it doesn't seem. If you have more history on Mason's recruitment let me know, but according to him Towson recruited him first. Towson's coach just started, so this process was already in place. It wasn't because of this coach. It seems he continued it, but he didn't start it. Most rich people get their money through inheritance. This coach just got rich. So that Hampton High transfer has had as much impact as the Kecoughtan, Bethel, or Phoebus transfers over the years. My point about the transfers is not that, oops one slipped in, but that Coach Brower does not build his program around them like all of the other programs in the Hampton School district portion of the Peninsula District. It is funny that these coaches keep taking transfers then their teams don't play with any unity and they are surprised.

[deandrebarnes1124]

Originally Posted by RICE

Congratulations to the Hampton Crabbers.
Motley against Frank Mason, really. You didn't think he would do that to Kecoughtan and you knew Mason would be facing Motley, really? The kid can play no doubt. Mason is going to Towson because they recruited him first. The problem is they only won one game this year and their coach will be fired. So the staff who recruited him will be gone. You can be loyal, but it is up to your parents to see what is developing behind the scenes. He should have waited to the late signing period looking at this team from last year. Kecoughtan's game plan speaks for itself about their staff. Mason is a great player, but when you talk about the best player, you have to consider the age old question, does he make his team and teammates better? No, he makes himself better. Anthony Barber is the best player in the state. He elevates the level of play for his teammates. That is why Kansas has offered and Duke is in serious talks. He has been talking to Coach K at Duke over the last couple of months. I believe he will be offered after Boo's tournament this spring. Lastly, if Anthony Barber decided he wanted to take every shot, he would average 40. He averaged 20+ as a freshman. People keep forgetting that. He was doing his thing before any of these Johnny come latelys arrived on the scene. We get so distracted. Oh, look at this guy. Oh, look at that guy. We keep forgetting the guy who has been doing it all along. Look at Bacote. Look at Williams. Look at Frank Mason, no, look at Anthony Barber. Mr. consistent!

Anthony Barber is a great player, but he’s not better than Frank Mason and he does take as many shots as Frank does. Neither Frank nor Anthony makes their team better and both shot the ball a lot to get a lot of points. Example: Last night Anthony Barber was 6-19 with 21 points and 2 assist and Frank Mason was 9-20, which is actually a better percentage, but had 28 points and 1 assist. How did either make their team better? One of the biggest differences is that Frank has a jump shot and plays better all around. Last night, he also had 11 rebounds from the guard position. This year, Anthony Barber was the third best player in the state, next year he will be the number 1 player. Actually, Frank Mason has been doing it since his freshman year as well. I’m not sure of his average has freshman year, but he’s been starting since his freshman year and has been to the state tournament 4 times and to the state championship twice. As a sophomore he average 15 points a game, as a Junior 28 and as a senior 27, so if that’s not consistent, what do you call consistent? Anthony Barber averaged 15 his freshman year just to be correct. Anthony Barber is the best player in the state now, starting his senior year, but let’s not forget people like Andrew White and Frank Mason, they have all paid their dues and being 3rd to them is not considered to be a down grade. By the way, Andrew White is going to Kansas next year.

[Packer Smithfield]

[quote=deandrebarnes1124;128404]Anthony Barber is a great player, but he’s not better than Frank Mason and he does take as many shots as Frank does. Neither Frank nor Anthony makes their team better and both shot the ball a lot to get a lot of points. Example: Last night Anthony Barber was 6-19 with 21 points and 2 assist and Frank Mason was 9-20, which is actually a better percentage, but had 28 points and 1 assist. How did either make their team better? One of the biggest differences is that Frank has a jump shot and plays better all around. Last night, he also had 11 rebounds from the guard position. This year, Anthony Barber was the third best player in the state, next year he will be the number 1 player. Actually, Frank Mason has been doing it since his freshman year as well. I’m not sure of his average has freshman year, but he’s been starting since his freshman year and has been to the state tournament 4 times and to the state championship twice. As a sophomore he average 15 points a game, as a Junior 28 and as a senior 27, so if that’s not consistent, what do you call consistent? Anthony Barber averaged 15 his freshman year just to be correct. Anthony Barber is the best player in the state now, starting his senior year, but let’s not forget people like Andrew White and Frank Mason, they have all paid their dues and being 3rd to them is not considered to be a down grade. By the way, Andrew White is going to Kansas next year.[/quote

Big Cat was the best player this year and he does make his team better and I cat played in Richmond he would score 30 a game to if he wanted to the best players in the state overall is in the ER other part of the state has talent but game in and game out ER teams are better. Cat speed by its self changes the game all on its on and the only other guard that speed was close to his is Brite from Nasmond River and he is 5 foot 9

[Packer Smithfield]

Best scorer in the state Frank hands down kid can score. But part of being the best player is giving your teammates a chance to win ball game thats what made Finney Smith so good Canty and Anderson had chances to hit big shots just likes Jackson and Baker Cat played a great team game. Mason been here two or three times and haven't won the whole thing other than the guards the rest ot the team was 3 for 9 thats not making your teamates better he is one great scorer though kids special at putting that ball in the whole.

[deandrebarnes1124]

I agree the best teams are in the eastern region but, I don't agree with the statement barber was the best player in the state. Actually, your statement about mason playing in central region would've made more since hadn't mason didn't average his double double on Eastern Region teams. Against two Eastern region teams, the kid got 30 and 28 and double rebounds in each game. Had nothing to do with the region he's in and more so to his school. Don't forget that he Single handly took his team to a championship and beat a peninsula district team on the way. Which brings his total to 3 eastern region teams. He had 37, 28, and 30 against our region. I wouldn't wouldn't limit his skill to just one region. He also had double digit rebounds in all those games as well. So I respect your opinion, but I just can't agree. They both shoot a lot of shots though and neither particularly makes there team better. Frank was actually averaging more assist coming into game

[RICE]

Originally Posted by deandrebarnes1124

Anthony Barber is a great player, but he’s not better than Frank Mason and he does take as many shots as Frank does. Neither Frank nor Anthony makes their team better and both shot the ball a lot to get a lot of points. Example: Last night Anthony Barber was 6-19 with 21 points and 2 assist and Frank Mason was 9-20, which is actually a better percentage, but had 28 points and 1 assist. How did either make their team better? One of the biggest differences is that Frank has a jump shot and plays better all around. Last night, he also had 11 rebounds from the guard position. This year, Anthony Barber was the third best player in the state, next year he will be the number 1 player. Actually, Frank Mason has been doing it since his freshman year as well. I’m not sure of his average has freshman year, but he’s been starting since his freshman year and has been to the state tournament 4 times and to the state championship twice. As a sophomore he average 15 points a game, as a Junior 28 and as a senior 27, so if that’s not consistent, what do you call consistent? Anthony Barber averaged 15 his freshman year just to be correct. Anthony Barber is the best player in the state now, starting his senior year, but let’s not forget people like Andrew White and Frank Mason, they have all paid their dues and being 3rd to them is not considered to be a down grade. By the way, Andrew White is going to Kansas next year.

Who is better is always a matter of opinion. Barber has an offer from Kansas also. An offer from Duke will come by the end of the AAU season. He has already had multiple conversations with Coach K. He would have had offers from UNC, but the other 2013 guard committed early and they have back to back top 25 guards in 2012 and 2013. Mason is a great scorer. He never looked for his teammates, not once that I saw in the championship game. Expect him to get smothered in college at 5'10" or 5'11". They list him at 6'0", but he is not. He is a small scoring guard. Barber is nearly 6'3" handles as well and is as quick as Mason. I really give Mason credit, but remember some of this is that senior motivation of now or never, so he put it all on the line and we have to put it all in perspective. Both great guards. I look forward to catching Mason with Towson when he faces ODU at the Ted. Good luck young men! Also don't forget that Barber fouled Mason out.